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PMDG update re: MSFS 2024 SU1

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19 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I absolutely love the iFly MAX. In fact, I might not bother to install my PMDG 737s in 2024 at all. As for the 777, I think it’s great, so I’ll probably use it when it’s  available (whenever that is).

Well 3  hours, and I am done.  Lunch and back to the PMDG, 

 

 

 

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  • flyingscampi
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    I find it amusing that people who spend thousands on a gaming rig, including the most expensive graphics card money can buy, complain about paying a modest fee for improvements to an aircraft model.

  • Fenix charged zero and they got it to work when MSFS24 was released. 

30 minutes ago, flyingscampi said:

The Cruise Wind is found on the OFP labelled as 'AVG WIND' or similar.

The OAT will be found on an OFP waypoint at the cruise altitude.

I found this note I'd made on ISA deviation, I've no idea if it's accurate...

 

Above FL360, a thermal boundary layer between the troposphere and the stratosphere called the tropopause limits the ISA temperature to -57ºC.

e.g., for 37,000 ft, the ISA temperature would be: -57ºC.
If the OAT at 37,000 ft is -59ºC, then the ISA deviation would be -2ºC.
If the OAT at 37,000 ft is -56ºC, then the ISA deviation would be +1ºC.

Noticed the differents in Cruize wind and, top of Climb OAT?

CRZ wind is average where T/C is what it is Top of climb OAT

I believe you can use the average wind  from Simbrief here as you also import winds per waypoint later. ISA deviation i also take from Simbrief. Might be a little loose hand there

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26 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

Well 3  hours, and I am done.  Lunch and back to the PMDG, 

It took me quite a while to get used to the MAX (after flying the PMDG NG for years). The EFB is not very intuitive at all. The aircraft has some quirks, e.g. the mouse operation which was mentioned. But IMO it’s well worth spending a bit of time getting familiar with it.

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8 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

It took me quite a while to get used to the MAX (after flying the PMDG NG for years). The EFB is not very intuitive at all. The aircraft has some quirks, e.g. the mouse operation which was mentioned. But IMO it’s well worth spending a bit of time getting familiar with it.

I can't even get the APU to start. 

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I absolutely love the iFly MAX. In fact, I might not bother to install my PMDG 737s in 2024 at all. As for the 777, I think it’s great, so I’ll probably use it when it’s  available (whenever that is).

Add me to the 737 max ifly lover. The hand flying with this ac is on another level. PMDG should invest more resources on this, it's really behind.

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21 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

I can't even get the APU to start. 

 

OK, I am using FSFO for co pilot. I did the Pre Flt flow, and must have missed something, because now the APu starts up.. 

 

 

 

While I have PMDG 737 working ( and quite well at that ) in 2024 with SU1 I cannot get the bird to even load unless I use the default livery.

My Ryanair and Aer Lingus liveries all work fine in 2020.

Anyone else finding this?

Edited by Sparkrite

I finally figured it out. I had watched a video this morning on setting up a turnaround state for the iFly like the PMDG has. There was something wrong with that setup that caused the APU to not start.  I just started from cold and dark, set everything up by hand, and now everything is working normally.  Whew

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Sparkrite said:

While I have PMDG 737 working ( and quite well at that ) in 2024 with SU1 I cannot get the bird to even load unless I use the default livery.

My Ryanair and Aer Lingus liveries all work fine in 2020.

Anyone else finding this?

No. Ryanair livery working fine here. There are two PMDG folders in the community folder. One for the aircraft and for the liveries. Did you remember to copy across both?

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12 minutes ago, mikethe6th said:

No. Ryanair livery working fine here. There are two PMDG folders in the community folder. One for the aircraft and for the liveries. Did you remember to copy across both?

Yep, I did. I now have a Ryanair working after updating it.

Tried a short hop on the 737 and all was fine for about 15 mins. or so. Then all guages froze but I could still fly manually but no info

on speed, attitude, altitude or anything in fact.

So, all is not well with it.😥

FWIW. I dropped the Trip 7 and Liveries from 2020 Community into 2024 Community and just flew a flawless flight from KBAB to KPDX.  I did nothing special except spawn on RWY so aircraft would be in a stable, flyable and engines running state, and guess what?  It was.

I even updated Navigraph Nav Data via the tablet. FMS worked exactly as expected.  LNAV AND VNAV were honored the entire flight.  Screens were all bright clear and legible and autoland on RWY28L was butter smooth.

Give it a try.  You might be surprised altho YMMV & TANSTAAFL.

-B

5 minutes ago, btacon said:

FWIW. I dropped the Trip 7 and Liveries from 2020 Community into 2024 Community and just flew a flawless flight from KBAB to KPDX

That's good to hear but, unfortunatly, I don't have the 777. ☹️

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13 hours ago, flyingscampi said:

I find it amusing that people who spend thousands on a gaming rig, including the most expensive graphics card money can buy, complain about paying a modest fee for improvements to an aircraft model.

 

True. But Nvidia doesn't charge me for a DLSS update that has drastic performance benefits. Overwhelming majority of plane developers are not charging anything or any fees whatsoever. Why does PMDG? Because people will likely pay it. Great for them. I will keep 2020 if I want to fly their planes.

As for PMDG, their products are great. The 737 series for msfs is like 2 ish years old and Still having issues/bugs etc in 2020 that have gone unresolved. WASM etc. I check the discord daily and its pretty full of bugs. I personally think PMDG should not charge any money whatsoever because of these reasons. It just leaves a bad impression to charge an "upgrade" fee to use in a new sim when your current products still have issues.

This is not Carenado were talking about. Its PMDG.

Put it this way: if FlightSimStudio charged an upgrade fee for their Embraer lineup. I would rather pay for that for 2024 than give PMDG another dime.

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Yeah, and the reason I can afford to buy the latest and greatest and spend thousands, as was said - is precisely because I look for value for money and spend when I feel I’m getting value - like my 4090. 
 

Just because I can afford to pay whatever fee PMDG - or any other dev for that matter- may charge, doesn’t mean they are entitled to just take my hard earned money.
 

Give me value and I’ll happily pay, as I have been paying for PMDG for well over a decade now. Show me an amazing 2024 upgrade that really uses the features, is a better looking model etc, and set a fair price. Everyone will pay. 
 

But if you’re doing low effort double dipping .. well, I’m no longer beholden to PMDG for great planes, thankfully. 

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