This will sell like hotcakes.

1 hour ago, Bigmack said:

I know all you 2020 enthusiast want to stick with it for whatever reasons you have, but the future of flight sim is 2024. And if I were a developer, I would not stay in the rut to continue to develop products for 2020 when 2024 is the money maker and I only have to supply support for the newer sim and walk away from the obsolete sim where there are limitations and headaches to support.

To be honest I am perfectly happy without the cabin - Not my thing, I am not here to be a passenger, if I want to do that - I fly for real. Similarly I don't care about avionics bay either - this is something that pilots don't interact with IRL on daily basics, so I'll turn it off from day one.  

With regards 2024 - Yes I will be switching over at some point once my new PC arrives till then MSFS have to do. Even after I might elect to keep 2020 - I still have and use P3D to this day so changing one sim to other does not mean you stop using other sims. Also for some people it is impractical to make a switch because of system limitation or network bandwidth limitation. 

22 minutes ago, 737_800 said:

because you will be able to fly these plane with the winwing A320 MCDU, which seems not to be possible with the A350/A380

I fly the FBW A380 using a Mobiflight profile, of course there are some compromises to be made but it does it for me.

Hopefully something similar can be done for the 350.

I believe the cabin with all it's glorious detail (incl. highly detailed crew bunks, galleys and even two working cabin control panels) is only possible in 2024 due to how the LOD works. From what I gather, it is far less taxing for the system. 

3 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

the stream showed otherwise. It was running smooth as butter. At least in 2024

  

the 737 is also a lot smaller plane than the A350.

That does not have anything really to do with anything does it. Its all on how developers optimize their addons and i'm surely thinking Ini is thinking about the XBOX users also with memory limitations.

Edited February 14, 20251 yr by JBDB-MD80

Definitely getting the A350 to do Virgin Atlantic ops!

15 hours ago, kevinfirth said:

£60 whaaaat????  I was expecting significantly more....

Look at fenix. Lower price - more sales 

 

Also Kevin the market has changed , it's not as niche as p3d was.  Id argue that the market is younger people with less money than the niche simmer market that p3d was

 

10 hours ago, amsfsx02501 said:

Definitely getting the A350 to do Virgin Atlantic ops!

Send me a pm.  I might be able to help you in your quest....

 

17 hours ago, chapstick said:

It’s a plane built for 2024 and people wanted it for 2020… and they want it nownownow because they have zero patience. Oh, and it needs to be reasonably priced. And perform well. Hence… no cabin in 2020.

I agree with everything you say, I just hope it's not a rushed out  unoptimised job.  The price is good, I'm not to fussed about the cabin I work for an operator with the 350 so I'm all too familiar with the cabin 😁

1 hour ago, fluffyflops said:

Look at fenix. Lower price - more sales 

 

Also Kevin the market has changed , it's not as niche as p3d was.  Id argue that the market is younger people with less money than the niche simmer market that p3d was

 

Yes indeed. I think the goal lots developers have, is find a price so that not only PC users buy it, but also XBOX users! Because that is a significant chance for a much bigger market. 

Although that does not count for Fenix...but for PMDG for instance. 

 

Edited February 14, 20251 yr by mpo910

1 hour ago, fluffyflops said:

Look at fenix. Lower price - more sales 

 

Also Kevin the market has changed , it's not as niche as p3d was.  Id argue that the market is younger people with less money than the niche simmer market that p3d was

 

Hey they can price it however they want.  I'm not getting into a debate about whether it should be more or less, just saying I expected it to be more.  I dont think we can expect every dev to absorb the VAT on sales like Fenix does though, that's just extraordinarily generous.  Not that I'd say no... 🤣

Looking forward to this plane to be honest. It looks really amazing with all those screens. Does iniBuilds generally sell through the marketplace as well? or is it just via their store?

2 hours ago, fluffyflops said:

Lower price - more sales 

From what I remember from watching the stream yesterday - the developers said their initial thoughts on price was significantly larger but they narrowed it down to make it accessible to most people. With the level of detail they have created - I think with £59.99 excl.VAT the developers are being more generous towards flight sim community, personally if I was the developer, I would have charged significantly more. Not to mention ULR is coming as free update - not that many developers do free update for completely new model.

However not all developers look it that way - Look at PMDG, they charge around $60-70 for every new model they create even if it's the same type and yet people buy it. 

I quite like the new "situations" concept from iniBuilds where multiple failures can be tied together or one failure leads to another (and any visual impacts also shown). These are not just the usual individual/specific systems failures traditionally modelled in sim aircraft. Apart from bird strikes, they also have depressurization events, GPS jamming/spoofing, and some others (as a starting list, and more will be added later). I believe on the last stream they showed a rapid decompression event and the plane reacted accordingly, including the automatic emergency descent found in the A350.
 

Edited February 14, 20251 yr by lwt1971

3 hours ago, kevinfirth said:

Hey they can price it however they want.  I'm not getting into a debate about whether it should be more or less, just saying I expected it to be more.  I dont think we can expect every dev to absorb the VAT on sales like Fenix does though, that's just extraordinarily generous.  Not that I'd say no... 🤣

I also thought it would be more expensive.  I love the fenix and their pricing model, cheaper with lots of sales.

I have a sneaky feeling that this 350 isn’t going to be as good as everyone making out, my “hype radar” is going off.  I’m hoping to be proved wrong after numerous let downs over the years