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Stuttering every ~40 seconds, struggling with finding cause

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When I had this my Logitech trackball would sleep if I did not move it every minute.  Thankfully It never happens with MSFS 2024 but it was a major pain for 3 years.

Anyway, my cause was MSFS 2020.

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  • Jack_Sawyer
    Jack_Sawyer

    I had a similar issue. It turned out to be an external HDD.

  • Please do not disable SVM or IOMMU.. You paid for those features and everything should work as designed. I had problems with stutters and sound cracking for a year. tried uninstalling nvidia HD A

  • WesleySnipez064
    WesleySnipez064

    Unfortunately I have tried with all usb devices disconnect and it still happens 

It happens in 2024 too. I am thinking it has something to do with sound. i.e. the stutter is not causing the brief strange noises, but it's the other way around. I think it's something new in how 2020 and now 2024 handles sounds is causing the stutters.

5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB  PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.

 

17 minutes ago, Fielder said:

It happens in 2024 too. I am thinking it has something to do with sound. i.e. the stutter is not causing the brief strange noises, but it's the other way around. I think it's something new in how 2020 and now 2024 handles sounds is causing the stutters.

I think you're on to something there. I just recently did a reinstall to try and clear that up. Just came up out of nowhere. So far, so good. Then again, maybe putting the rolling cache up to 64 gigs helped, as well.

i7-13700KF @ 5.3GHz    32.0GB DDR5 @ 5600    RTX 3080    65" LG OLED @ 4k

I don't think that rolling cache is perfected yet and even if it is I would just recreate a 16gb one from time to time.

dd

5 hours ago, Bob Scott said:

Antivirus?

Potentially. Microsoft Defender etc sometimes will turn itself back on, run updates, etc when you already turned it off.

This should be looked into.

7800+4090+64ram

Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.

 

2 hours ago, 0stones0 said:

I think you're on to something there. I just recently did a reinstall to try and clear that up. Just came up out of nowhere. So far, so good. Then again, maybe putting the rolling cache up to 64 gigs helped, as well.

I had one CTD with 2024 in the C414 (Flysimware) like about 2ish weeks ago. The sound stuttered in/out for several minutes and finally CTD.

Never looked into. Just rage quit and did something else.

 

7800+4090+64ram

Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.

 

What version of Windows?  Win 11 version 24H2 caused persistent audio/video cutouts for me and some others and thankfully I had a clone well before 24H2 auto installed itself.  So installed the clone which was 23H2, and all became well again.  I had to do some regedits to prevent 24H2 from installing itself as I have Win 11 Home, which does not include group policy editor which would let you do this w/o the reg hack.

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

You can try the program LatencyMon. It's made for testing a machine for realtime audio recording, but can also be helpful just to see what may be spiking the CPU. Just run it with the sim and other programs closed and see if you get a latency spike that matches the timing of the stutters in the sim. It will list the file/process that causes any spikes, and usually a quick Google search will tell you what the file is related to.

Ms sims always have some kind of stutters, every single edition.

35 minutes ago, Marc22 said:

Ms sims always have some kind of stutters, every single edition.

Good point, and probably at least partly responsible for millions of dollars spent on hardware and countless hours tweaking and fiddling.

 

I wonder if using current hardware on a very old version of the sim could achieve that elusive goal?, I remember some discussion after a some years of FSX being in circulation that the latest hardware could run the old sim perfectly, iirc the answer was no.

57 minutes ago, Rusty Spanner said:

iirc the answer was no.

It's yes in my case but I had to spend a couple of days tweaking the perfect custom windows power plan to get it stable and smooth. i14900 gtx 4090 96gb ram fsx steam edition. 

Windows by DEFAULT cripples many speed features of your hardware to save power unless you use ultra performance plan which isn't even visible until you enable it. 

https://systembooster.minitool.com/boost-pc/ultimate-performance-power-plan.html

The best way is to tweak the plan via a custom tool as there are well over 100 hidden settings that windows uses for each plan. You can create your own custom plan and use it for each app /sim /game for the ultimate stability /performance. 

You will need the tool below for that. 

My FSX custom plan also gives me the best performance in 2020 and p3d whereas the default ones caused instability in both sims. 

https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/windows-power-plan-settings-explorer-utility.416058/

 

Russell Gough

SE London

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If you use an AMD CPU

- have you disabled SVM in Bios?

- Have you disabled IOMMU in Bios?

 

Had all 30-40 secs stutters, sound problems, low fps. With both disabled, problem gone.

The last Windows update changed something in the way virtual machines are utilised, and MSFS somehow has a touch to it.

Regards, Jan Ast

Win 11 PC | Ryzen 7800 X3D | RTX 5080 | LG 42 C2
Cockpit 😉 | TrackIR 5 | Octavia IFR-1 | Virpil Alpha on WarBRD, Virpil CM3 Throttle, Virpil Sharka Control Panel | Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo | TM TPM Rudder

Reinstalling my older audio drivers from disk helped with my stutters.  Unfortunately windows keeps updating them even though its set to install only when i tell it too 

Ryzen 5800X3D, Nvidia RTX5080 - 32 Gig DDR4 RAM, 1TB & 2 TB NVME drives - Windows 11 64 bit MSFS 2024 Premium Deluxe Edition Resolution 2560 x 1440 (32 inch curved monitor)

Please do not disable SVM or IOMMU.. You paid for those features and everything should work as designed.

I had problems with stutters and sound cracking for a year. tried uninstalling nvidia HD Audio as many suggested, but problem was solved by uninstalling nvidia virtual audio device (wave extensible) (wdm) in devices manager. 

It is not enough to uninstall nVidia HD Audio driver, you must go to devices manager and uninstall nvidia virtual audio device (wave extensible) (wdm) device and its driver.
Device will be back on every nvidia display driver so have that in mind.

 

 

 

 

Ryzen 9 9950X3D, 64Gb DDR5@6000Mhz cl30, PCIe 4 NVMe SSD, RTX4090 GPU

Oh, you working with virtual machines?

Or why should you use SVN and IOMMU? 😅

Regards, Jan Ast

Win 11 PC | Ryzen 7800 X3D | RTX 5080 | LG 42 C2
Cockpit 😉 | TrackIR 5 | Octavia IFR-1 | Virpil Alpha on WarBRD, Virpil CM3 Throttle, Virpil Sharka Control Panel | Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo | TM TPM Rudder

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