Just now, Christopher Low said:

If it is anything like the default AI animation, then I can understand your frustration.

It's far worse.

How did they manage to do that? 

Edited October 31, 2025Oct 31 by Christopher Low

I don't care about the trafffic. The vectoring is garbage. 

On 10/30/2025 at 3:23 PM, Noel said:

To me it sometimes seems worse than original vectoring in 2020, and that is saying something.  A couple days ago I attempted PAJN > PANC in the IFly 737 Max 8.  After the usual 20 minute+ pre-flight, took off only to have BATC tell me to start my descent, shortly after reaching FL180 feet, and we're still 500 mi out from PANC.  So after two attempts at this thought I would revisit OEM ATC and traffic.  It wasn't half bad and was far better that BATC on this bizarre simple route!   I remember the herringbone zig zag in OEM ATC and it looks like BATC uses 70 degree changes on this, whereas OEM maybe half that.  Even OEM would tell you to hurry up and start descending when you didn't, whereas BATC doesn't seem to have a clue where you are.   As you say leaves us too high, too late.   

I guess I had better try using its traffic injection again.  What levels do you keep sliders at?

Do you use simbrief for your flightplans ? As in my experience it follows them perfectly including descent path tod etc the only issue i get is sometimes vectors to final don't happen when I'm 20 miles out but quite rare.

1 hour ago, Noel said:

Well that sounds a little like what I do in BATC:  I used FSLTL's injector/models, and don't use BATC's traffic.  Because of that there is no comms between AI traffic and BATC's ATC.  Is that what is happening for you?  If not, how do you config 2024 to be able to use those 3rd party models?

No, no fsltl injector. Just put the models and it picks them up automatically.. that’s with FStraffic and AIG. 

It seems to me that all these new ATC programmes want to learn to run before they can even walk.

2 hours ago, JonathanC said:

No, no fsltl injector. Just put the models and it picks them up automatically.. that’s with FStraffic and AIG. 

What do I set 2024's related settings (Online and Global Rendering Quality)?  I ask because the other day despite having FSLTL models in the Comm folder it was only using generic models.

Also, ATC refers to me always as, UAL220.  How do I get it to use Simbrief's entries?  I did use the Simbrief link in 2024's EFB, Imported the plan, and I see it correctly entered registration, callsign, flight number etc. I then did the Send operation to ATC, and it still refers to me as UAL220.   

Help!

Edited October 31, 2025Oct 31 by Noel

On 10/31/2025 at 9:50 AM, Ricardo41 said:

I don't care about the trafffic. The vectoring is garbage. 

In full agreement for months now with your comment...until three flights in a row which were vectored perfectly.  Maybe BATC is turning a corner as well now 

On 10/31/2025 at 1:53 PM, Noel said:

What do I set 2024's related settings (Online and Global Rendering Quality)?  I ask because the other day despite having FSLTL models in the Comm folder it was only using generic models.

Also, ATC refers to me always as, UAL220.  How do I get it to use Simbrief's entries?  I did use the Simbrief link in 2024's EFB, Imported the plan, and I see it correctly entered registration, callsign, flight number etc. I then did the Send operation to ATC, and it still refers to me as UAL220.   

Help!

When you pick your plane in the main menu, click configure, then go to identification and set it there. The same place you go to pick liveries and aircraft types - that screen, last tab. 

On 10/31/2025 at 1:53 PM, Noel said:

What do I set 2024's related settings (Online and Global Rendering Quality)?  I ask because the other day despite having FSLTL models in the Comm folder it was only using generic models.

I don't change anything specific. I set this to Live Real Time traffic, and the options under the Graphics Menu (Traffic type, quantity etc) are all set to Ultra. 

FSLtl doesn't cover everything so yes sometimes you may see generic, but you should also see FSltl liveries and models. If you don't, try the AIG Models and see if that works?

All ATC programs I've own (still own) have issues. All of them. BATC included but when the rare occasion it wants to vector me in awkwardly I just ignore it. Rare. Only one thing I wish we could do is set up our own flight plan without always using simbrief. Well, I guess you can still edit what you put into simbrief I think.

Either way. Love BATC. GA traffic is included so flying VFR at smaller airports (I just pretend I am doing a flight following in GA planes sometimes) is amazing. 

37 minutes ago, Sonosusto said:

Well, I guess you can still edit what you put into simbrief I think.

Yeah, I do that all the time. I will plan in Navigraph or on SkyVector and just put the route in this box instead of accepting their routing. 

On 10/31/2025 at 6:53 PM, Noel said:

What do I set 2024's related settings (Online and Global Rendering Quality)?  I ask because the other day despite having FSLTL models in the Comm folder it was only using generic models.

Also, ATC refers to me always as, UAL220.  How do I get it to use Simbrief's entries?  I did use the Simbrief link in 2024's EFB, Imported the plan, and I see it correctly entered registration, callsign, flight number etc. I then did the Send operation to ATC, and it still refers to me as UAL220.   

Help!

BATC always uses the most recently generated flightplan on Simbrief and reads the callsign right out of the „ ATC callsign“ field there (which by default is populated by the „airline“ + „flight number“ fields, but can be manually changed or changed when the flightplan is coming from external apps like APLv2).
In general I suggest going on the BATC Discord channel for further questions/support. There are 40000+ people over there and you‘ll get help quickly.
Also there‘s a very extensive wiki (including tutorial) for BATC (just google for it).

10 hours ago, haskell said:

Yeah, I do that all the time. I will plan in Navigraph or on SkyVector and just put the route in this box instead of accepting their routing. 

I can't believe after 14+ years of using Simbrief....I never actually did this. Feel free to roast me! 😅I will start doing this from now on. Whenever I requested a change from BATC (before you need to) it's worked so far. Thanks a lot. 

5 hours ago, Fiorentoni said:

BATC always uses the most recently generated flightplan on Simbrief and reads the callsign right out of the „ ATC callsign“ field there (which by default is populated by the „airline“ + „flight number“ fields, but can be manually changed or changed when the flightplan is coming from external apps like APLv2).
In general I suggest going on the BATC Discord channel for further questions/support. There are 40000+ people over there and you‘ll get help quickly.
Also there‘s a very extensive wiki (including tutorial) for BATC (just google for it).

Thanks for all of that but I was referring to default ATC in 2024 and how to get it to use the correct ATC callsign.

Cheers