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A2A Aerostar is now available

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I get zero to very, very little turbulence even with it set to realistic in the sim and maxed out on the slider in the EFB app. Even flying in an active weather pattern nothing, but then I took up the Comanche in the same weather and it was bouncing around like it always has. Even though a twin is more stable, turbulence should be noticeable.
 

Also, the Comanche has an option to set Turbulence to VR/Monitor. I fly in VR so this was a great feature, but it’s absent in the Aerostar.

The Comanche makes you really feel like you’re in an actual plane. I just don’t have the same immersion in the Aerostar. It helps that the Comanche door handles and visors vibrate. Not sure if anything can be done about that in the Aerostar. 
 

 

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    Scott - A2A

    Thanks for the feedback regarding the cockpit condition. The aircraft we modeled is based on the actual Aerostar I owned and operated for several years. Our approach has always been to focus on a

  • Scott - A2A
    Scott - A2A

    I haven’t tested the Aerostar in heavy turbulence yet, but it’s on my to-do list. If anything feels off or isn’t behaving as it should, you can expect it to be addressed in the next update or shortly

  • Stearmandriver
    Stearmandriver

    Turbulence and the Aerostar: feels pretty good to me.  I'm not sure if I've ever flown an Aerostar - seems like I must have at some point - but I've spent too much time in many other similar twins.  Y

3 hours ago, Gulf76 said:

I get zero to very, very little turbulence even with it set to realistic in the sim and maxed out on the slider in the EFB app. Even flying in an active weather pattern nothing, but then I took up the Comanche in the same weather and it was bouncing around like it always has. Even though a twin is more stable, turbulence should be noticeable.
 

Also, the Comanche has an option to set Turbulence to VR/Monitor. I fly in VR so this was a great feature, but it’s absent in the Aerostar.

The Comanche makes you really feel like you’re in an actual plane. I just don’t have the same immersion in the Aerostar. It helps that the Comanche door handles and visors vibrate. Not sure if anything can be done about that in the Aerostar. 
 

 

I'm getting turbulence flying this plane, but very disappointed in the trim, GPS following and auto pilot controls even with latest update. A2A should not have released this until it was in better flying condition. Very disappointed.

Bill McIntyre

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7 hours ago, Bigmack said:

I'm getting turbulence flying this plane, but very disappointed in the trim, GPS following and auto pilot controls even with latest update. A2A should not have released this until it was in better flying condition. Very disappointed.

Not sure what is going wrong with your system, but the autopilot works fine with the GTN750XI. You have to make sure the autopilot is on heading mode and the hdg/gpss switch is on gpss as well. It then follows the GTN ( on gps not vor obviously).

The trim was adjusted for less sensitivity on the last update and the auto trim switch should be left on.

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There's a new update for the Aerostar out now.

New instruments glass

New shiny and animated prop spinner

Fine tuned slow flight

Adjusted VR default view

Added A600_STEERING_SWITCH_LEFT and A600_STEERING_SWITCH_RIGHT bindings for completeness. Same as MSFS STEERING INC/DEC shortcuts, no need to rebind.

Added wingtip shakes and wing bending physics

Aligned nose wheel doors when closed

Autopilot: fixed glideslope arming logic

Autopilot: improved NAV intercept

CHT gauge illumination

Clamshell door now droops if there is no hydraulic pressure

Compass light

Deeper Landing Gear Lever cut-out on panel

EDM790 display can pop up (ALT+CLICK)

Engine levers drag&drop less sensitive

Engine sounds update

Engine vibration physics

Fix for radio frequencies not loading correctly on ramp start

Fixed ambient sounds when door is open

Fixed flickering magnetos

Fixed tooltips showing throttles at 99 max

Fuel drain bottle is now hidden by default

Increased the size of the interaction volumes (WIP)

Map light range reaches floor

Oat needle gap corrected

Potential fix for NeoFly compatibility

Restored German flag on the tail with German regstration

Saving ventilation switches and levers, tablet position, marker selector

Set ui_certified_ceiling to fix "Back to Fly" MSFS keybind

Slip indicator doesn't flicker

VR collision mesh corrected

Working prop heat bindings

Yoke bank max angle increased

[Tablet] "Interior error" notification logic corrected

[Tablet] Autopilot pitch UP and DN functions inverted.

[Tablet] Empty weight corrected

[Tablet] Endurance in sync with EDM790

[Tablet] Oil level adjustments fixed

[Tablet] The EFB app doesn't update when in the pocket

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Just flew her yesterday all over the Caribbean.

She is going to be great once its all said and done.

Great plane.

 

 

 

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Have the released the timeline for completion yet?

When it's ready. 

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1 hour ago, Muwarr90 said:

Have the released the timeline for completion yet?

Unless you have flown this beauty in real life how are us armchair pilots going to know whether something is realistic or not? (Talking about the finer details)

2 minutes ago, davenicoll said:

Unless you have flown this beauty in real life how are us armchair pilots going to know whether something is realistic or not? (Talking about the finer details)

When A2A announced the early access they said "A roadmap detailing upcoming updates will follow shortly after release."

I'm just asking if that has happened yet.

 

The autopilot works much better with this update, instrument glass has reflection and engine sounds continue to improve. But this plane still feels like I’m flying an airliner, not a GA aircraft. I would love to see if there are planned changes to the flight model on the roadmap. And adding the Turbulence setting for VR/Monitor similar to the Comanche. 

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21 minutes ago, Gulf76 said:

The autopilot works much better with this update, instrument glass has reflection and engine sounds continue to improve. But this plane still feels like I’m flying an airliner, not a GA aircraft. I would love to see if there are planned changes to the flight model on the roadmap. And adding the Turbulence setting for VR/Monitor similar to the Comanche. 

"Feels like" is a very subjective term! I have never flown Aerostar but have some time in Seminole, Duchess and Traveller and there are very stable and easy to fly platforms. In fact twins I experienced were much easier to handle than 172 or PA28. Or should I say flying twins are nothing like single engine light GA! The only exception when things go south and one  engine quit especially if it is critical during initial climb! Needless to say one engine performance in light twin as they say  "is good enough to take you to the crash site" LOL

My understanding that PA60 comes with 290hp per side. In no way it should ever feel like flying Comanche ! In this respect I actually thrust in Scotts judgment. He owned Aerostar so he would be a guy to get right to what it suppose to feel like. 

Now, I would be interested to hear from a person who logged over 100 hours in PA60? Has anyone flown PA60 IRL here?

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47 minutes ago, Gulf76 said:

But this plane still feels like I’m flying an airliner, not a GA aircraft.

Keep in mind also that the Aerostar has pretty high wing loading. This is going to make it fly more like an airliner than a light piston single.

Some wing loadings for comparison:

Cessna 172: 14 lb/sq ft

Piper Seneca: 23 lb/sq ft

Aerostar: 36 lb/sq ft

Boeing 757-200: 58 lb/sq ft

(All at max gross.)

So the Aerostar has over 2.5 times the wing loading of a 172, but the 757-200 only has 60% more wing loading than the Aerostar. Granted, the 757-200 has particularly low wing loading for a jet airliner, but the point still stands: In terms of wing loading, the Aerostar is closer to a 757-200 than a 172.

I will be looking forward to trying update this weekend. I think this plane has a lot of potential to it.

Bill McIntyre

Asus StrixB650E-F Gamer, AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D, Corsair Titanium DDR5 64GB, Samsung 990 PRO-4TB M.2, (4) 2TB SSD's, Corsair H1150i liquid cooler, RTX 2080TI Founders Edition, (2) LG 34" HD Curved Monitor, Sound Blaster Audigy X, 1Kw PC Power & Cooling Power Supply, Corsair Obsidian Full tower Case. MSFS 2024, WIN11 Pro x64                                                                                                                                             

55 minutes ago, martinboehme said:

Keep in mind also that the Aerostar has pretty high wing loading. This is going to make it fly more like an airliner than a light piston single.

Some wing loadings for comparison:

Cessna 172: 14 lb/sq ft

Piper Seneca: 23 lb/sq ft

Aerostar: 36 lb/sq ft

Boeing 757-200: 58 lb/sq ft

(All at max gross.)

So the Aerostar has over 2.5 times the wing loading of a 172, but the 757-200 only has 60% more wing loading than the Aerostar. Granted, the 757-200 has particularly low wing loading for a jet airliner, but the point still stands: In terms of wing loading, the Aerostar is closer to a 757-200 than a 172.

Fair point but as I said earlier, nearly zero impact on the airplane when flying through stormy conditions. It flies through just like it’s in clean air. No need to even keep your hands on the yoke. 

I have tremendous respect for A2A and their products. But similar to the rudder issue identified by a member here, that A2A then corrected, there is something off on how weather impacts this plane. 
 

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