From A2A....."If Early Access isn’t for you, we look forward to welcoming you at version 1." ....

1 hour ago, Delta111 said:

 

 

             From A2A....."If Early Access isn’t for you, we look forward to welcoming you at version 1." ....

This has nothing to do with me not wanting to deal with Early Access. A2A specifically asked for and welcomed feedback. And part of paying full price for Early Access is to provide feedback into the development.

But just in case you need to visit your optometrist, this was taken directly from this thread.

“This is still a pre-release version, so if you notice anything you'd like to see improved, don’t like, or believe is a bug, please feel free to post here or on our forums. We log all feedback in an internal spreadsheet that we review and work from daily.

Thanks again for your interest and support of the Aerostar.”

Scott

Edited July 15, 2025Jul 15 by Gulf76

On 7/1/2025 at 4:10 PM, JBDB-MD80 said:

We as MSFS 2020 survivors are being left behind.

Why not use 2020 & 2024?  You can keep 2020 for as long as you want, but use 2024 for aircraft only available in that version.

1 hour ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Why not use 2020 & 2024?  You can keep 2020 for as long as you want, but use 2024 for aircraft only available in that version.

Not gonna feed the beast! I'm happy with 2 sims already, the devs that have ditched them both are not getting another cent of my money. Burning bridges and all that! 

Talking about impression and perceptions.. Remind me of an old joke: Fist pierp UUA:  severe turbulence, type 172. Same place and almost same time time, second pirep: light chop, type 737 🙂

21 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Talking about impression and perceptions.. Remind me of an old joke: Fist pierp UUA:  severe turbulence, type 172. Same place and almost same time time, second pirep: light chop, type 737 🙂

Have you purchased it yet? You seem to be a very experienced pilot, so what are your thoughts? All I know is I’ve flown on many planes both small and large and I know what it feels like to fly through stormy weather. I’ll trust my gut and instincts on whether flying a twin GA aircraft in the sim provides a similar sensation. 

32 minutes ago, Gulf76 said:

Have you purchased it yet? You seem to be a very experienced pilot, so what are your thoughts? All I know is I’ve flown on many planes both small and large and I know what it feels like to fly through stormy weather. I’ll trust my gut and instincts on whether flying a twin GA aircraft in the sim provides a similar sensation. 

I have not found any GA aircraft in MSFS that feels like it does when it is flying through really bad weather.

13 minutes ago, Cognita said:

I have not found any GA aircraft in MSFS that feels like it does when it is flying through really bad weather.

The Comanche does; thus, why you pay a premium for Accusim. Not saying the Aerostar should feel like the Comanche, but weather conditions should have an impact on the flight model.

I much prefer to fly the Flysimware 414 (2020 version in 2024) over the Aerostar with its current flight model. Not even close! And I love the Comanche so I’m not bashing A2A. There’s a lot to like about the Aerostar and it will hopefully surpass the Comanche, my favorite plane. So anyone commenting here who hasn’t picked up the Aerostar should refrain from commenting until they do. 

1 hour ago, Gulf76 said:

Have you purchased it yet? You seem to be a very experienced pilot, so what are your thoughts? All I know is I’ve flown on many planes both small and large and I know what it feels like to fly through stormy weather. I’ll trust my gut and instincts on whether flying a twin GA aircraft in the sim provides a similar sensation. 

Experience is also very relative term! Yes I own A2A Aerostar. I have not flown in "stormy weather" yet (in my understanding), but I did experienced some mountain turbulence and thermals and they felt ok for me. I do fly heavy thought often at 5000+ lbs gross.

Stormy weather in my experience could describe different thing. Like warm front could be classified as "stormy weather" but it can be not that bad. What is "stormy weather" to you? What are you expectation for Aerostar bouncing around moderate turbulence?  

46 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Experience is also very relative term!

Yes it is 😂! I remember when I was in the military back in the late 80’s and I was flying on a twin engine domestic hopper between posts. The cabin door was open during the flight and the pilots were flipping the operating manual the entire trip. Rain was leaking into the passenger cabin and when we landed, the First Officer looked back and said “well at least we made it safely”. I kid you not.😅

i certainly don’t expect the sim to replicate that experience, but some rocking and bouncing is certainly to be expected. I trust A2A will get it all sorted out. But the Accusim transition to the 2024 environment, I’m sure presents some modifications. I do experience slight drafts in mountain ranges with the current build, just not much turbulence or any kind or flight model impact in rough weather. And I certainly understand a twin engine prop will be less impacted than a single engine.

i really am an A2A major supporter. I purchased the Aerostar in Early Access strictly on my love for their aircraft. 

Edited July 16, 2025Jul 16 by Gulf76

8 hours ago, sloppysmusic said:

Not gonna feed the beast! I'm happy with 2 sims already,

If you are happy with two sims, why do you state something like you are being abandoned?  Technology moves on and we have to pay to go with it. No developer is going to support an older sim forever, so if you want new aircraft, you must purchase the newer sims.

It is not them that have abandoned you, it is you who have abandoned them.

"Technology moves on" is all very well, provided that everything in the new version is at least as good as that in the previous version. I cannot comment since I do not have MSFS 2024, but I have seen plenty of comments to suggest that certain features of the new simulator are inferior to those of MSFS 2020 (the night lighting being one example).

Edited July 16, 2025Jul 16 by Christopher Low

14 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

I cannot comment since I do not have MSFS 2024

Enough said. 

1 hour ago, Christopher Low said:

"Technology moves on" is all very well, provided that everything in the new version is at least as good as that in the previous version. I cannot comment since I do not have MSFS 2024, but I have seen plenty of comments to suggest that certain features of the new simulator are inferior to those of MSFS 2020 (the night lighting being one example).

I got MSFS 2024 early on and hated it, until recently. After the new high-quality airplanes released during the last month, I now exclusively use 2024. Yes, it is not perfect, but it is now better than 2020 IMHO. I love the walk-around feature, for instance.

8 hours ago, Gulf76 said:

Yes it is 😂! I remember when I was in the military back in the late 80’s and I was flying on a twin engine domestic hopper between posts. The cabin door was open during the flight and the pilots were flipping the operating manual the entire trip. Rain was leaking into the passenger cabin and when we landed, the First Officer looked back and said “well at least we made it safely”. I kid you not.😅

i certainly don’t expect the sim to replicate that experience, but some rocking and bouncing is certainly to be expected. I trust A2A will get it all sorted out. But the Accusim transition to the 2024 environment, I’m sure presents some modifications. I do experience slight drafts in mountain ranges with the current build, just not much turbulence or any kind or flight model impact in rough weather. And I certainly understand a twin engine prop will be less impacted than a single engine.

i really am an A2A major supporter. I purchased the Aerostar in Early Access strictly on my love for their aircraft. 

My impression that 2024 itself has turbulence tone down for some reason. I remember in 2020 some folks were complaining because turbulence was too extreme . I've been flying airliner in 2024  through some thunderstorm and turbulence was very low. So I suspect that Asobo might need to tweak turbulence over all. I set my to realistic at the moment and expect more.