7 minutes ago, steve 86 said:

Beyond ATC is using  winter flight schedule at the moment thats why there isnt loads of traffic, they have said they will update very soon to have a summer and winter flight schedules

Whether it's winter or summer schedule makes little difference to the amount of traffic.

 

I would like to see them keep this up though and change the schedule every half year when appropriate.

I have no clue how much FR24 charges for a full weeks set of data, which what they use to populate their program, and if this is sustainable.

But I would even be willing to pay a small fee of around 5€ every half a year, to get updated schedules.

Edited August 15, 2025Aug 15 by Farlis

Also, keep in mind that as you have issues, submit under their discord and submit your files. 

36 minutes ago, regis9 said:

I think a lot of the bad vectoring on arrival could be avoided by giving Direct-To clearances or clearances for initial approaches which I suspect would also be far more realistic in most cases where there is a vectors section in between the STAR and the approach.

Yeah, they should run a basic IFR and VFR pattern and have it vector for that when not using STARs.

6 hours ago, bloxboy said:

Does anyone know if BATC are addressing the problems mentioned

I stopped using BATC and went back to AIG TC + default ATC ... too many issues and no VFR support.  With that said, they have a planned road map of feature implementations.  

What BATC is trying to accomplish is a great idea, but I believe AI Traffic (along with road traffic and boat traffic) issues in MSFS 2024 will need to be address by Asobo.  It's a difficult problem to solve and will require more CPU resources ... but heck most have many cores not doing much so hopefully they can come up with efficient task scheduling running on a separate core updating the main pipe for all the path routing logic.

I remember when BATC was being discussed prior to release, lots of expectations and hype on the forum... a shame it's not as good as we had all hoped for 

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3 minutes ago, Rocky_53 said:

I remember when BATC was being discussed prior to release, lots of expectations and hype on the forum... a shame it's not as good as we had all hoped for 

You people make it all sound like it is completely hope- and usesless.

It is the best ATC program available for MSFS at this point. By a wide margin. At least for Linepilots.

And there is STILL lots of work to be done about it to improve it.

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It's funny, so many BATC threads with less than satisfied users, then there are the plethora of SayIntentions threads comparing it to BATC and then there is a subsection of the population using FSHUD which despite some vectoring issues itself at times and the worst voices of the 3 keeps me very content.  

I wonder why it's always left out of the BATC vs SI threads... 

14 hours ago, 11bee said:

Honestly, I stay with BATC because there are no other options but if someone ever comes up with a decent AI traffic app for 2024, I'll gladly delete BATC in a heartbeat.  It's semi-garbage but there's nothing else out there, so I continue to tolerate it. 

Have you never heard of FSHud?

3 hours ago, Farlis said:

You people make it all sound like it is completely hope- and usesless.

It is the best ATC program available for MSFS at this point. By a wide margin. At least for Linepilots.

And there is STILL lots of work to be done about it to improve it.

I never said it was useless, I'm simply saying it's not as good as we had all hoped for... and it isn't. 

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I quite like it, but I never feel like I'm being controlled. I always feel like I'm leading the interactions or thinking "are they going to do something? Shall I prompt them?"

1 hour ago, Farlis said:

You people make it all sound like it is completely hope- and usesless

I never said that?  Perhaps be a little more specific than “You people”?

It’s a work in progress and I’ve purchased in the hope that my funds help continue the progress.

9 hours ago, ryanbatc said:

Poor vectoring and approach clearances are the norm for BATC.

It can do okay with really structured rnav routes and sids/stars though as long as you fly airliners or jets.

It struggles with general aviation style flights.

I rarely use it.

I second this and much more. For example, on a vector in my C310 for a VA to uncontrolled KTPH; then, "Radar service terminated..." no clearance, no nothing. SI (Say Intentions) does terribly with airspace and basic FAA phraseology. For example, 30 NM NE of DAG in ZLA airspace: "Contact Mexicali Control..." or "FL120" in the USA? This shouldn't be this difficult. PE is the ticket, I just wish there was more volume. 

2 hours ago, Farlis said:

You people make it all sound like it is completely hope- and usesless.

It is the best ATC program available for MSFS at this point. By a wide margin. At least for Linepilots.

And there is STILL lots of work to be done about it to improve it.

Certainly agree with that.  Despite the approach annoyances and sometimes wonky runway assignments I still use it every airliner flight.

My problems are in line with the OP.

The program leaves me high about a half to a third of the time. The program likes to give me visual approaches but can sometimes get back to me late. I can also attest to the hold taxi and the program never calls me back as promised.

However, the voice interaction is why I bought it. IMO, it does a very good job at voice interactions. There are times it expects a different pronunciation of a SID then I'm giving it, but then I just turn on auto reply when it scolds me with "NO!".

In summary: I'm enjoying it and I'm not using any premium voices.

I just bought it as default ATC and traffic is horrible for IFR airliner operations. 

I’ve only done one flight with it and it worked flawlessly for me. I had to line up and hold short while the plane ahead took off. Then it vectored me into my arrival just fine. I’m sure it has some flaws but can’t be worse than default. 

I still use vanilla ATC for VFR but then you don’t even need ATC for VFR really.