This is something that is starting to annoy me. No matter what time of the day or week that I visit certain airports, there are hardly any AI planes parked there. There are three that I can name without even thinking about it...

• EGNM Leeds Bradford - I use the IniBuilds version, but the default airport has the same lack of AI planes
• EGFF Cardiff - I use the Gaya handcrafted version, but the same applies to the UK2000 version of the airport
• LEGE Girona Costa Brava - I have the MK Studios version installed, but I cannot remember seeing more than one AI plane parked there

There are probably more that I cannot remember off the top of my head, but those three are important airports for me. I want to see the correct AI planes that are supposed to be there at specific times, but it seems to me that something is stopping all of them from being displayed. EGNM Leeds Bradford in particular should have the entire back wall full of Jet2 planes early in the morning, but the most that I ever see are three, and these are always at Gate 6/7/8. Not a single airliner parked at Gates 9 through 21.

So what on Earth is happening here? Do other users see plenty of AI planes at these airports? If so, I do not understand why they are not appearing for me. It does not make any sense  For the record, I have the entire massive database of AIG planes and flightplans installed.

Edited August 27, 2025Aug 27 by Christopher Low

What troubleshooting steps have you accomplished so far?

Is AIG indicating any missing textures, models, and/or flightplans for the providers that fly into these airports?

Have you uninstalled and reinstalled the scenery products? Are they obtained through the marketplace or external vendors? Do they have config utilities meant only for static, non-ai aircraft? 

Are you using the AIG traffic injector, or are you just using the models and liveries with MSFS real-time/live traffic?

Have you investigated the AI state of other airports in the UK like Heathrow? What about airports that serve Jet2? 

The AI planes seem to work just fine at most of my other airports. I see plenty of them at large airports like Heathrow/Barcelona/Frankfurt/Brussels. I see Jet2 planes at other airports. My post is really to ask other users......are you seeing plenty of AI planes at these airports? Nobody (including IniBuilds; the developer of the version of Leeds Bradford that I use) has ever given me a straight answer to this question.

7 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

The AI planes seem to work just fine at most of my other airports. I see plenty of them at large airports like Heathrow/Barcelona/Frankfurt/Brussels. I see Jet2 planes at other airports. My post is really to ask other users......are you seeing plenty of AI planes at these airports? Nobody (including IniBuilds; the developer of the version of Leeds Bradford that I use) has ever given me a straight answer to this question.

But you did not respond to the question what sort AI planes and AI traffic injector you use.

I'd take a look at the size of the parking spaces/gates/stands. I see a lot of airports having GA parking spots with small parking radiuses (radii?) I see Bizjets parked at gates cuz a 737 or A320 has too big of a wingspan. 

Not sure if the flight planner lists gate size or radius when building a flightplan but Little Navmap does.

@Twenty6 has a good point...if the parking radii are set too small in the scenery, then the planes won't park there, at least that was the code in past that I strongly suspect is still active today.

I could go into it in more detail...but I'm not sure if my knowledge translates to MSFS.  The sim used to look at the wing_span value in the AI aircraft's aircraft.cfg file which in concert with the parking radius determined how it parked, but again that my not be relevant anymore.

I'd contact the developer of the airport to see if in fact the parking radii are the issue, or if it's the AI package you're using.  Since you're seeing Jet2 planes at other airports, I'd think it would be an issue with that one scenery.

I have the same issue with Ini Johannesburg. Most gates overlap each other, so Ai traffic won’t park in the majority of the gates ( a well known bug in MSFS since day 1). 

Unfortunately it isn’t a simple fix like it used to be, when you could use ADE to modify AFCAD’s. It requires the scenery developer to make the changes now which falls on deaf ears most times. 
 

11 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

No matter what time of the day or week that I visit certain airports, there are hardly any AI planes parked there.

EGNM (seems ok)

EGFF (1 TUI)

LEGE (1 Transavia)

All about 6:30am ish

Agree, some airport seem pretty scarce ... this is AIG TC at 100% and the following airlines installed:

EGNM - Aer Lingus, Jet2, Aurigny, Ryanair, Wizz Air, easyJet
EGFF - Delta, KLM, Allegiant, American, TUI, United, Vueling, Aer Lingus, Air France, Loganair, Ryanair, Alaska, Breeze Airways, Sun Country Airlines
LEGE/GRO - Ryanair, Jet2, Transavia, Air Arabia Maroc, TUI Fly, Wizz Air, Enter Air, Alba Star, Croatia Airlines, Smartwings Hungary, Travel-Service-Polska

 

 I don't think any of those 3 airports are going to have much traffic during the summer at least. Leeds would be busiest of them with somewhere near 10 overnighters to depart in the early morning (140ish movements/day) and Cardiff will be a trickle of traffic, 8 departures between 7am to 4pm tomorrow with 10 arrivals in that same time period (42 movements/day). Girona splits them with around 80 a day.

 The ade overlap parking issue that Asobo introduced was a horrible idea and they haven't backed off from it still and is probably one of the big reasons you don't see as much traffic as you should. One of the biggest reasons I moved to PXT.

Edited August 28, 2025Aug 28 by Dave_YVR

1 hour ago, SayAgain said:

EGFF - Delta, KLM, Allegiant, American, TUI, United, Vueling, Aer Lingus, Air France, Loganair, Ryanair, Alaska, Breeze Airways, Sun Country Airlines

 Wait what?  Delta, Allegiant, American, United, Aer Lingus, Air France, Alaska, Breeze Airways, Sun Country Airlines at EGFF? 

1 hour ago, Dave_YVR said:

 Wait what?  Delta, Allegiant, American, United, Aer Lingus, Air France, Alaska, Breeze Airways, Sun Country Airlines at EGFF? 

Airshow? 🤔😉

Rob,

Are you using the IniBuilds version of EGNM Leeds Bradford? As for the AI planes, I am using a utility that injects the AIG traffic as static aircraft at those times when they are supposed to be parked at the relevant airport. Maybe I should test the AIG traffic injector directly, and see if that makes a difference? That being said, I do not want to see animated AI traffic at the moment because it affects performance, and also because the animation of the AI planes is rather poor.

EDIT: As for the time of year, that will depend on which week of the year the AIG flightplans are based on.

Edited August 28, 2025Aug 28 by Christopher Low

You can use FSLTL and just set the IFR and VFR traffic to 0, but set a reasonable amount to be parked. And then you’ll always see traffic. Before I started using SI AI or BATC that’s what I did as I didn’t want traffic wandering about all over the place with no idea what they were doing but I did want to have some life at the airports I was landing at or departing from. 

6 hours ago, Dave_YVR said:

Wait what? 

Haha, just reporting what Google AI reports  … regular routes I have no idea.

I really do hope Asobo spend the time and money to fix AI traffic, it’s pretty embarrassing to use MSFS 2024 where AI traffic logic is worse than FSX from decades ago.

I’ve used FS Traffic, AIG, BATC and they all have issues and the source of those issues is Asobo.

In the case of Leeds I think it has something to do with the Jet2 Data availability.

I use BeyondATC and their injector and I do have all the airlines installed that actually fly to the airports I fly from and to. So that should be about 2/3rds of the entire catalogue available by AIG, including Jet2.

 

However despite BeyondATC using a snapshot of a week of last years winter flightplan Jet2 aircraft seem non existant, which is extremely noticeable at any Holiday destinations they fly to. Malaga, Alicante... all very empty as all Jet2 aircraft are missing.

And since they seem to be the main operator at Leeds, that would explain why yours is so empty.