October 19, 2025Oct 19 The Michael Cependa (Aerosoft published) DC-8 was pretty good in P3Dv4, and I have kept a shred of hope that he'd re-work in for MSFS, but that hasn't happened. Maybe as the market gets saturated with the modern stuff, we'll start seeing a few more oldies trickle in. Rhett 7800X3D ♣ 96 GB G.Skill Flare ♣ Gigabyte 4090 ♣ Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
October 19, 2025Oct 19 9 minutes ago, jymp said: Only a FSS 727-200 ?, no 727-100, 737-200, (Decent) 707, DC-8, DC-10, L1011, there's lots of old school jets could be done. To me the FSS 727 doesnt count. Is full of silly bugs that remain unresolved months after the initial release. Lost my faith in that team. If only the guys from Dreamfleet could come back... And the guy from coldsky reappeared again with the dc-9... Juan Ramos
October 19, 2025Oct 19 4 hours ago, xender said: Wait, what? Im a JF junkie and I haven’t heard anything about it. Source? Sorry Juan, I just cheked back, it was iniBuilds. Supposed to be in 2025 but no news for a while. Maybe the A350 and A340 releases have caused it to be pushed back. Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind). I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio. Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's. Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.
October 19, 2025Oct 19 i Agree with the author but I am old. (maybe he is too LOL!!) I am not sure the interest is there for vintage airliners. wish I was wrong....
October 20, 2025Oct 20 Author I think the majority of serious flight simmers belong to the baby boomer generation, I am in that same boat. We all grew up with those wonderful noisy jetliners of the 60s and 70s and IMHO the best looking were the DC-8s. From the very early models to the late digital cockpit and CFM engine equipped converted freighters. I am sure there would be a market for it. I have worked for the Flying Tiger line in the late seventies early eighties, ground staff, and have made several North Atlantic crossings in their DC-8s, in the cockpit jump seat that was, always with fuel stops at Shannon and Gander. Wish I had to chance to experience that again. It was wonderful.
October 20, 2025Oct 20 Regarding the relative scarcity of vintage airliners, I think one contributing factor is the diminishing radio navigation infrastructure worldwide. You could 'retrofit' a little Garmin unit on the top of a VC-10 or Viscount instrument panel, but all the radio nav instruments themselves would be dead half the time. I did once mention the idea of a vintage radio nav database on Just Flight's message board. It would have been from, say, the 1970s or 80s. Just Flight responded that they had already looked into the idea, but there were problems with compiling the data, and given the amount of work involved, it was unlikely to be commercially viable. I wonder if someone could get hold of the data and gather a group of volunteers together (including myself ) to produce a radio nav database, country by country, as a freeware add-on. Anybody with the necessary expertise here? Surely not everybody was kung fu fighting. https://rationalwiki.org
October 20, 2025Oct 20 12 hours ago, Paul K said: I wonder if someone could get hold of the data and gather a group of volunteers together (including myself ) to produce a radio nav database, country by country, as a freeware add-on. Anybody with the necessary expertise here? There's also presently an add-on for NDB's available at Simmarket (title is "NDB World"). There is a thread here at AVSIM about it. That's a pay add-on, but it still might bridge some of the gap. I do not have the necessary knowledge to push it thru the MSFS SDK. The SDK must allow it, since the NDB add-on exists now. The thought was that we could pull the FSX navaid data (using programs like the old FSNavigator or current LittleNavMap), which would give much better coverage. It wouldn't be the 1960's data but it would at least be better than today. Rhett 7800X3D ♣ 96 GB G.Skill Flare ♣ Gigabyte 4090 ♣ Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
October 20, 2025Oct 20 8 minutes ago, Mace said: There's also presently an add-on for NDB's available at Simmarket (title is "NDB World"). There is a thread here at AVSIM about it. That's a pay add-on, but it still might bridge some of the gap. I do not have the necessary knowledge to push it thru the MSFS SDK. The SDK must allow it, since the NDB add-on exists now. The thought was that we could pull the FSX navaid data (using programs like the old FSNavigator or current LittleNavMap), which would give much better coverage. It wouldn't be the 1960's data but it would at least be better than today. There's a free mod on FS.to that does just that, albeit not currently compatible with FS2024: https://flightsim.to/file/72415/worldwide-update-decommissioned-navigation-aids
October 20, 2025Oct 20 15 hours ago, Paul K said: Regarding the relative scarcity of vintage airliners, I think one contributing factor is the diminishing radio navigation infrastructure worldwide. You could 'retrofit' a little Garmin unit on the top of a VC-10 or Viscount instrument panel, but all the radio nav instruments themselves would be dead half the time. One of the beautiful things about the Cependa/Aerosoft DC-8 was that it had a CIVA INS in it. So you didn't have to depend on radio navaids for at least a good portion of your flight. I remember even programming Initial Approach Fix waypoints into it, to get me down to the IAF on an approach. That was probably never "proper" in the real world but hey what do I know. I think we're getting one (an INS) with the JustFlight A300-B4 so that might be nice. Rhett 7800X3D ♣ 96 GB G.Skill Flare ♣ Gigabyte 4090 ♣ Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
October 20, 2025Oct 20 5 minutes ago, Mace said: One of the beautiful things about the Cependa/Aerosoft DC-8 was that it had a CIVA INS in it. So you didn't have to depend on radio navaids for at least a good portion of your flight. I remember even programming Initial Approach Fix waypoints into it, to get me down to the IAF on an approach. That was probably never "proper" in the real world but hey what do I know. I think we're getting one (an INS) with the JustFlight A300-B4 so that might be nice. The FSS 727 also has a CIVA in it. I'm hoping Milviz will add one for the 737-200 but not holding out. And of course PMDG have to add one for the 747-100/200, for the sheer authenticity.
October 22, 2025Oct 22 I guess that it's all about the business model. Can enough revenue be generated to pay for the costs of producing a DC-8?
October 23, 2025Oct 23 I'd love to see a CV990 or CV340 in game but almost everyone seems to be obcessed with flying some random sub variant of the A320 so devs make those.. I find programing an FMS annoying in real life let alone doing it for entertainment. I do love hoping in an old jet or prop liner and reliving the glory days. Glad we have the DC-6. ATP MEL,CFI,CFII,MEI. Type Ratings B-737, ERJ-190,ERJ-170
October 23, 2025Oct 23 Give us a Tupolev 154 or a 134! Iljushin IL-62, TU-104 or what ever, just its an airliner from Russia! The TU-154 is without a doubt the most beautiful airliner ever built! To see a 154 (or 134) in msfs2024 would be a dream come true!!!
October 23, 2025Oct 23 3 minutes ago, buspelle said: Give us a Tupolev 154 or a 134! Iljushin IL-62, TU-104 or what ever, just its an airliner from Russia! The TU-154 is without a doubt the most beautiful airliner ever built! To see a 154 (or 134) in msfs2024 would be a dream come true!!! There's a TU-154 in the works by Ablomis. It was making really good progress and quite far into the process but recently was picked up by an as-yet-unannounced big publisher. Nothing is known about this publisher other than it's a big player with lots of really high quality releases. My money is on JustFlight (please!!) but that's just wishful thinking maybe. For now it sounds like a 2026 release.
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