This is truely not intended to be any form of troll.  Seriously. and fully sincere.  Have been on this site since 1998 or 1999.  When was it that Sierra Propilot was released.  Was here prior to that. 

Having just reviewed the list of what was addressed in SU4, a year after 2024 release, and still having valued aircraft addons , sceneries, and liveries not yet fully compatible, all I can say is we are nearing what should have been MSFS 2026.  Just look at that list.

Have been an IBM PC owner/user and flight sim enthusiast since late 1981 and cannot recall any other software release of any kind over those years with a history like this.  I appreciate what we have, recognize some is still missing, and scratch my head at the time needed to reach MSFS 2024.  I look back a year and ask what were they thinking.

Would you buy flight sim hardware with that many issues?

Just feel it needs to be said.  Customers deserve better.
 

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I dunno.  FSW95/FS98/FS2000 or FS2002 one of those was a stutterfest for me, and it was never really fixed for me, but I was younger and had more patience.  But at least today, problems GENERALLY are getting fixed.   Maybe not at the speed we'd like, but then that's a whoie 'nuther topic.  I'd like a SU devoted to weather, but it hasn't happened yet and may not!

1 hour ago, fppilot said:

Just feel it needs to be said.  Customers deserve better.

Those times are just gone. I don't like it either. But MSFS is no more guilty of this than any major game these days. Software quality overall has seen a massive decline - so much so that the next version of Mac OS has been announced as a bug-fix only, "Snow Leopard" style release. 

I'm just happy that 2024 is finally where it's at. Frankly, these days, with the way the world is, I'll take what I can get in flight sim!

Man 2024 has all technological breakthroughs, what possibly could a new ip provide?

 

especially considering this tech is still being mastered by microsoft

I'm always left scratching my head when I see this 'released a year too early' stuff. I've had the best simming year of my whole life and am so grateful for it. The first year of 2020 was much worse for me. SU4 seems to have bumped it up to yet another level but wow, what a year it has been! I'm so glad I didn't have to wait. 

I'd be absolutely fine if they just keep offering the SU/WU updates for 2020/2024 rather than come up with another sim. Just do not see what a new one can offer that these two are currently offering.

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4 hours ago, fppilot said:

Would you buy flight sim hardware with that many issues?

Just feel it needs to be said.  Customers deserve better.
 

Would you buy a new flight Sim with that many issues when you already own state-of-the-art hardware? 

1 hour ago, LIML2020 said:

Would you buy a new flight Sim with that many issues when you already own state-of-the-art hardware? 

Nope, because i have MSFS2020 !!

cheers 😉

I would not buy a 2026 version, not before 2028

Unless they have some sort of massive technological breakthrough I see no reason for another "new" title anytime soon, also seeing as it's taken a year to get this to a V1.0 standard then I'd think twice before buying into their Hype Train ever again.

They need a few years of stability whilst building on the current iteration, gives the modders a chance to settle down as well without worrying about another title to upgrade their work on.

A flightsim is so complex that it is very difficult to iron it bugs free. Don't forget that none of us has exactly the same simulator as we all have different add-ons, freeware or payware, different hardware, different kind of PC.

We need patience. msfs24 slowly come to a mature simulator and we have something in our hands, that we couldn't immagine a few years back.

But like always, hisory will repeat. A new msfs28 or msfs30 will appear one day and people will swear that they will never leave msfs24 because it runs perfectly! Anf those people are mostly those who says that they will never leave msfs as today 😉

8 hours ago, fppilot said:

Having just reviewed the list of what was addressed in SU4, a year after 2024 release, and still having valued aircraft addons , sceneries, and liveries not yet fully compatible, all I can say is we are nearing what should have been MSFS 2026. 

True.

I have MSFS2020.
The developer initially mentioned MSFS2020 would have support for a 10 year run.  That is good.
MSFS2020 and my addons runs well with my current 2019 vintage PC.

Have not purchased a new PC (est. $5000 US as I mentioned here long ago) to support a new MSFS2024 product.

Currently waiting for MSFS2026 (or later) release / review before considering any new PC or hardware upgrade.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, vonmar said:

True.

 

I have MSFS2020.
The developer initially mentioned MSFS2020 would have support for a 10 year run.  That is good.

 

 

 

😘👍

And my opinion is : A new Flightsim 2028 is not needed at this time because MSFS2024 will only be truly ready then, and because the same procedure will surely be repeated as with MSFS2020 and MSFS2024, and to be honest, I don't need that anymore..
I'd rather have something stable and functional from the start and a more solid release than the other way around !! 🤔

cheers 😉

8 hours ago, Mace said:

I dunno.  FSW95/FS98/FS2000 or FS2002 one of those was a stutterfest for me, and it was never really fixed for me, but I was younger and had more patience.  But at least today, problems GENERALLY are getting fixed.   Maybe not at the speed we'd like, but then that's a whoie 'nuther topic.  I'd like a SU devoted to weather, but it hasn't happened yet and may not!

I was under the impression patience comes with age, but as for those four FS2000 was the worsted for flight simming not to mentioned how it looked 🤣
We are leaps ahead from that age including fixes in the past we had 1 sp if we where lucky.
Incase of FSX 2 sp released but that was it, hence ACES/MS abandoned the series and we where at a dark place regarding options for flight simming for the MS series. 
 

 

Edited December 9, 2025Dec 9 by SierraHotel BSc