March 18Mar 18 9 hours ago, pmplayer said: Yes, and that is why the Bird not get released for MSFS2020, i bet if they not it would be released for 2020 - so it’s all a deliberate and calculated move to push everything towards MSFS2024, but not with me – I won’t be switching to MSFS2024 until SU7 or SU8 is out, and by then the first updates for the L-1011 will be available too, so I’ll be on the safe side then !! And let’s be honest, this is a right mess, because everyone bought MSFS 2020 and it still deserves support, given that at least half of all users are still using it. Shame on MS for handling this the way they have…🫣 It's all just about the bloody money.. cheers 😑 Do you still use an abacus or do you now have a calcutor? Rotary dial phone still or push button on your landline? Black and white TV or color? 2020 is horse and buggy. Time to buy a car. Flight Sim Software/Hardware: MSFS 2020 Premium Deluxe | MSFS 2024 Aviator | X-Plane Mobile 12 | X-Plane 12 | Thrustmaster TCA Captain Pack Airbus Edition | Thrustmaster TCA Yoke Pack Boeing Edition | Honeycomb Alpha Flight Controls | Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant | Turtle Beach Velocity One Rudder | Xbox wireless controller | Stream Deck + | Flight Radar 24 Gold | Navigraph | Simbrief | WINCTRL PAP 3 MAG, 3N PDC, 3M PDC & PFP 7 | Wingflex A320 EFIS, RMP & FCU Cube | 3rd Party Hanger: Fenix: A319, 320, 321 | Flight Factor: 777-200ER with engine variants | Flight FX: HondaJet HA420 | FlyJSim: Dash 8 Q400 | Hot Start: Challenger 650 | iFly: 737 Max | iniBuilds: A350 | PMDG: 737-800, 777-200ER, 777-300ER, DC-6 | Toliss: A321 with engine variants | Zibo: 737-800 Computer Equipment: Intel i7-13000K | Asus Tuf Z790 | 64 GB Corsair Ram | 2 TB NVMe OS Drive | 4 TB NVMe Game Drive | 3 X 4TB SATA Data Drives | Windows 11 | Asus Dual RTX 4070 CAE Full Motion Flight Simulator Experience: Boeing 737, Boeing 767, Boeing 787 Real Aircraft Flying Experience: Schempp-Hirth Janus, Cessna 172 and Cessna 185 https://www.youtube.com/@CYVRAviation
March 18Mar 18 This aircraft is another one of the reasons for my recent reinstatement of my old P3D setups - Very much looking forward to seeing this in MSFS Ryzen 9 7900X, Corsair H150 AIO cooler, 64 Gb DDR5, Asus X670E Hero m/b, 3090ti, 13Tb NVMe, 8Tb SSD, 16Tb HD, 55" Philips 4k HDR monitor, EVGA 1600w ps, all in Corsair 7000D airflow case. Sims in use - 2020, 2024, XP-12 and -11, FSX/SE, P3Dv4.5 and v5.4. DCS and AFS2 installed but rarely used
March 18Mar 18 18 hours ago, pmplayer said: Yes, and that is why the Bird not get released for MSFS2020, i bet if they not it would be released for 2020 - so it’s all a deliberate and calculated move to push everything towards MSFS2024, but not with me – I won’t be switching to MSFS2024 until SU7 or SU8 is out, and by then the first updates for the L-1011 will be available too, so I’ll be on the safe side then !! And let’s be honest, this is a right mess, because everyone bought MSFS 2020 and it still deserves support, given that at least half of all users are still using it. Shame on MS for handling this the way they have…🫣 It's all just about the bloody money.. cheers 😑 Let's be honest here: This is kind of demand and reaction is an ever perpetuating cycle. It happens everytime a new simulator version comes out. I entered into the is ecosystem with FS2004 and have witnessed the same behaviour from some users with every new iteration, from FSX to the switch to P3D and its versions and now with MS2020 to MS2024. Some people refuse to move on in time and instead expect continuous support for the older platform they cling to. It's realistic to expect a grace period but it usually does not last longer than 18 months. By that time developers have fully moved on. We are nearing this point, so its time the stragglers move on as well. And if they don't want to they should just stop moaning about having been abandoned and left behind. Edited March 18Mar 18 by Farlis
March 18Mar 18 This whole topic has shifted away from the L-1011 to, MSFS2020 vs MSFS2024, DC-10 vs L-1011. Can we get back on topic for those of us who are interested in the upcoming release. For anyone who is a Delta L-1011 fan, here is a link to the entire Delta L-1011 Fleet listing. Edited March 18Mar 18 by Wise87 Dan i9-13900K / Asus Maximus Hero Z790 / RTX 4090 FE / G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB DDR5-6400 CL32 / Artic Liquid Freezer II 360 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / EVGA 1000W G3, 80+ Gold / Phanteks Eclipse P600S ATX Mid Tower / Arctic P14 PWM Case Fans / LG C2 42 Inch Class 4K OLED TV/Monitor / Windows 11 Pro / 1Ghz AT&T Fiber
March 18Mar 18 The stream is live. has been for 20 minutes, so you'd have to go back to the VOD to see what was missed. https://www.twitch.tv/msfsofficial Edited March 18Mar 18 by Tuskin38
March 18Mar 18 little WASM in the Tristar, most are sim systems. And the little WASM it does use, if it does crash you won't lose your flight. Will be out this month, no exact date yet. 2024 Marketplace only for a few months just like the 340. Edited March 18Mar 18 by Tuskin38
March 18Mar 18 I'm watching. I'm disappointed that the initial release will be on the Marketplace only in the beginning. I hate Marketplace as it's slow to get updates and there were times where I couldn't purchase items due to a MP glitch. I've even repurchased items when they became available on the Devs internal applications just so I didn't have to deal with MP. Such a shame to have to wait a few months to enjoy the L-1011. Only way I'll buy it is I can transfer it off Marketplace when it comes to the iniManager. Edited March 18Mar 18 by Wise87 Dan i9-13900K / Asus Maximus Hero Z790 / RTX 4090 FE / G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB DDR5-6400 CL32 / Artic Liquid Freezer II 360 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / EVGA 1000W G3, 80+ Gold / Phanteks Eclipse P600S ATX Mid Tower / Arctic P14 PWM Case Fans / LG C2 42 Inch Class 4K OLED TV/Monitor / Windows 11 Pro / 1Ghz AT&T Fiber
March 18Mar 18 14 minutes ago, Wise87 said: I'm disappointed that the initial release will be on the Marketplace only in the beginning. No sale to me either... ...
March 18Mar 18 ... and now the Tristar after the 707 and Dc-9, but why on earth does nobody gets us a decent DC-8? Like the freeware DC-8s from HJG ages ago. Edited March 18Mar 18 by roland
March 18Mar 18 21 minutes ago, Wise87 said: I'm disappointed that the initial release will be on the Marketplace only in the beginning. They were pretty quick on updates to the MP with the a340. Also, transferring it over to the Ini store when it was available was very simple. Took about 24 hours and all I had to do was send a screenshot. I think they have an arrangement with MS to get the updates through faster.
March 18Mar 18 17 minutes ago, BrammyH said: They were pretty quick on updates to the MP with the a340. Also, transferring it over to the Ini store when it was available was very simple. Took about 24 hours and all I had to do was send a screenshot. I think they have an arrangement with MS to get the updates through faster. Good to know. I was unaware of this as I don't own the A340. Everything iniBuild has produced, I have purchased directly from them. I avoid the Marketplace at all cost. It's such a pain dealing with or getting ahold of someone at MS when you have issues or you can't purchase something due to a glitch on there end. Edited March 18Mar 18 by Wise87 Dan i9-13900K / Asus Maximus Hero Z790 / RTX 4090 FE / G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB DDR5-6400 CL32 / Artic Liquid Freezer II 360 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / EVGA 1000W G3, 80+ Gold / Phanteks Eclipse P600S ATX Mid Tower / Arctic P14 PWM Case Fans / LG C2 42 Inch Class 4K OLED TV/Monitor / Windows 11 Pro / 1Ghz AT&T Fiber
March 18Mar 18 18 minutes ago, Wise87 said: Good to know. I was unaware of this as I don't own the A340. Everything iniBuild has produced, I have purchased directly from them. I avoid the Marketplace at all cost. It's such a pain dealing with or getting ahold of someone at MS when you have issues or you can't purchase something due to a glitch on there end. I was able to do the same with upgrading the A300 to Premium, as I was in a hurry for a native 2024 aircraft with the new flight model. Relatively painless process. Right now, I’m really in no hurry for another airliner (even as cool as this one is), so I’m perfectly content to wait. Edited March 18Mar 18 by UrgentSiesta
March 19Mar 19 11 hours ago, roland said: ... and now the Tristar after the 707 and Dc-9, but why on earth does nobody gets us a decent DC-8? Like the freeware DC-8s from HJG ages ago. DC-8 to INS to your heart's content!! Flight Sim Software/Hardware: MSFS 2020 Premium Deluxe | MSFS 2024 Aviator | X-Plane Mobile 12 | X-Plane 12 | Thrustmaster TCA Captain Pack Airbus Edition | Thrustmaster TCA Yoke Pack Boeing Edition | Honeycomb Alpha Flight Controls | Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant | Turtle Beach Velocity One Rudder | Xbox wireless controller | Stream Deck + | Flight Radar 24 Gold | Navigraph | Simbrief | WINCTRL PAP 3 MAG, 3N PDC, 3M PDC & PFP 7 | Wingflex A320 EFIS, RMP & FCU Cube | 3rd Party Hanger: Fenix: A319, 320, 321 | Flight Factor: 777-200ER with engine variants | Flight FX: HondaJet HA420 | FlyJSim: Dash 8 Q400 | Hot Start: Challenger 650 | iFly: 737 Max | iniBuilds: A350 | PMDG: 737-800, 777-200ER, 777-300ER, DC-6 | Toliss: A321 with engine variants | Zibo: 737-800 Computer Equipment: Intel i7-13000K | Asus Tuf Z790 | 64 GB Corsair Ram | 2 TB NVMe OS Drive | 4 TB NVMe Game Drive | 3 X 4TB SATA Data Drives | Windows 11 | Asus Dual RTX 4070 CAE Full Motion Flight Simulator Experience: Boeing 737, Boeing 767, Boeing 787 Real Aircraft Flying Experience: Schempp-Hirth Janus, Cessna 172 and Cessna 185 https://www.youtube.com/@CYVRAviation
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