58 minutes ago, UrgentSiesta said:

and congrats on Challenger continuing on with such a high level of success!!

Thank you.  It's been doing very well, still after over 4 years.  

1 hour ago, UrgentSiesta said:

how’s the TBM coming along

Saso will get into it slowly.  There'll be some bugs in the new CL650 version, which he will have to fix as they come along, but it (The TBM) will be next on the schedule.

23 hours ago, BostonJeremy77 said:

I agree with you, actually. On all of the points you made above. Like Goran said, no ill will was meant. 

Especially on the point of XP not advancing quickly enough before MSFS gave LR a motivation to innovate more and quicker. Between XP11.5 (which is when I started using XP - AFER MSFS 2020 came out) and the current version, it's leaps and bounds! 

Competition is a great thing. It's what drives innovation. Purism (as you mentioned in LM's case) can also lead to stagnation, I agree. I am not THAT kind, because I always try to push myself. But I can see how it can be a detriment to some. I want MSFS to do better. I want to like it more. Maybe that will happen, maybe it won't. I am happy with XP, but to all those who enjoy MSFS 2024, like I said, more power to them! In certain aspects, I hope LR's turn is to motivate MS. The environmental depiction far surpasses MSFS among other things. Once the new scenery in XP platform rolls out, I believe it will be a revolutionary release. Not just an evolutionary one. 

Amen to all points 🙏

So, I hopped back into MSFS 2024 today. It's better than it was a year ago. Honestly, as far as performance goes, it blows XP12 away... Granted, I am running on a 6 yr old laptop, but I can manage 50 FPS on Medium settings with Volumetric Clouds set to Ultra (otherwise they look terrible)... Took me an hour to set up controls again. The key is to avoid default planes because loading them via tablet used to be a nightmare. Flew one flight with Fenix and one with PMDG 777. I may get a new aircraft or two and mess around with it more. Always had it since day one (bought the $200 Aviator Edition). Good to see it's making progress. It still doesn't match my XP12 experience, even though I only get 25-30 FPS on it. Even ATC has gotten somewhat better, though again.. doesn't compare to XP12 default. 

I am REALLY missing Better Pushback. For the third flight, set up the 777 for 45 mins just to have the pushback tug get stuck at an angle unable to push the aircraft. So I rage quit. 🙂 Back to XP for tonight. 

1 hour ago, BostonJeremy77 said:

So, I hopped back into MSFS 2024 today. It's better than it was a year ago. Honestly, as far as performance goes, it blows XP12 away... Granted, I am running on a 6 yr old laptop, but I can manage 50 FPS on Medium settings with Volumetric Clouds set to Ultra (otherwise they look terrible)... Took me an hour to set up controls again. The key is to avoid default planes because loading them via tablet used to be a nightmare. Flew one flight with Fenix and one with PMDG 777. I may get a new aircraft or two and mess around with it more. Always had it since day one (bought the $200 Aviator Edition). Good to see it's making progress. It still doesn't match my XP12 experience, even though I only get 25-30 FPS on it. Even ATC has gotten somewhat better, though again.. doesn't compare to XP12 default. 

I am REALLY missing Better Pushback. For the third flight, set up the 777 for 45 mins just to have the pushback tug get stuck at an angle unable to push the aircraft. So I rage quit. 🙂 Back to XP for tonight. 

I didn't read the entire thread.  But was the last time you used 2024 a year ago?  It's completely changed since then.  Same with XP12 vs when it was released to where it is now.

I could go back and forth about things I love in XP12, MSFS 2024 and things I hate in both.

I tend to fly MSFS 2024 more at the moment (due to some incredible addons coming out), but sometimes I'll flock back to XP12 when VR is working better for touch screen avionics like the glorious TDS GTNxi.  In the past I've used XP Map Enhancement payware (for the higher res), which was pretty solid, still a notch below 2024's aerials imo, but still pretty darn good.  If you build your own custom hi-res tiles, like ZL18+, XP12 can absolutely look superior to 2024 especially once you have the atmosphere and sky component.  I'm realllllly hoping Laminar can work on the anti aliasing for nvidia users... I'm still seeing awful jaggies at 1440p.

You never have to pick one sim - I guess if the financials are a factor then yeah it's definitely cheaper to pick one though heh.  I happily enjoy having both MSFS2024 and XP12 on my M.2

7 hours ago, ryanbatc said:

I didn't read the entire thread.  But was the last time you used 2024 a year ago?  It's completely changed since then.  Same with XP12 vs when it was released to where it is now.

I could go back and forth about things I love in XP12, MSFS 2024 and things I hate in both.

I tend to fly MSFS 2024 more at the moment (due to some incredible addons coming out), but sometimes I'll flock back to XP12 when VR is working better for touch screen avionics like the glorious TDS GTNxi.  In the past I've used XP Map Enhancement payware (for the higher res), which was pretty solid, still a notch below 2024's aerials imo, but still pretty darn good.  If you build your own custom hi-res tiles, like ZL18+, XP12 can absolutely look superior to 2024 especially once you have the atmosphere and sky component.  I'm realllllly hoping Laminar can work on the anti aliasing for nvidia users... I'm still seeing awful jaggies at 1440p.

You never have to pick one sim - I guess if the financials are a factor then yeah it's definitely cheaper to pick one though heh.  I happily enjoy having both MSFS2024 and XP12 on my M.2

Yeah, 2024 has improved since when I saw it last. Thankfully. I am thinking about picking up a couple of aircraft for it - haven't bought anything since iniBuilds released the A300 Premium for 2024. Namely, I want the A350 (which I have the FF A350 for XP12, but let's face it... it's not the best... thankfully them and Toliss are collaborating on a brand new version) and the iFly 737MAX (which isn't available for XP yet). I refuse to fly that default Asobo one (unless they improved it drastically). I still don't understand how loading passengers and cargo and fuel works through that EFB. Or why ATC has a prompt to Begin Boarding Passengers after I pushed back from the gate... A lot of it makes no sense, so as long as I can rely on 3rd party EFB to load things (iniBuilds default AC is good for that too), I should be OK. 

As far as antialiasing in XP, Laminar is working on motion vectors, which will enable them to roll out new antialising for XP. I don't have TDS GTNxi for XP mainly because I don't have any AC that would use it. On 2024, I use it with FSS Boeing 727. I mostly fly airliners, since if I want to fly GA, I can just hop in my Cessna and do the real thing. It's not often that airliners would use GTNxi. I am wondering if that new TriStar is worth picking up too. 

Anything else in terms of airliners in 2024 that I missed? I do have the FSS Embraer 175 and JustFlight BAE146 and that old Fokker one. 

I alternate between the two, instead of being silly and uninstaliing one of them whenever I get bored with it's bugs or limitations...

Usually one month is dedicated to one of the platforms, unless something worth the try justifies switching to the other.

I also usually have at least another flightsim for decompression / safeguard, presently Aces of Thunder which is a game I really enjoy playing.

My Xp12 month has started earlier than expected due:

I created a new method to set a realistic haze in XP12 - The X-Plane General Discussions Forum - The AVSIM Community

and the release of the FF 733, which I am seriously considering as a potential investment 🙂

MSFS and Xp12 are extremelly fluid in my system, but I can ear the fans spinning a lot more and the temps rising too when I use Xp12, so, I only use it for short hops in airliners. For longer distance sessions MSFS 2024 is my choice because the desktop fans remain almost silent most of the time.

 

13 hours ago, BostonJeremy77 said:

I am REALLY missing Better Pushback. For the third flight, set up the 777 for 45 mins just to have the pushback tug get stuck at an angle unable to push the aircraft. So I rage quit. 🙂 

That's basically feature parity with X-Plane, where you request an ange turn from the default pushback, but get pushed straight back all the way into the grass or other concourse instead. (Well, at least you get pushed.)

4 hours ago, BostonJeremy77 said:

 

As far as antialiasing in XP, Laminar is working on motion vectors, which will enable them to roll out new antialising for XP. 

 

This is true however it's likely for XP13 - quite a ways off.

As for airliners I've heard the new Embraer stuff is really good for XP12.

1 hour ago, ryanbatc said:

This is true however it's likely for XP13 - quite a ways off.

As for airliners I've heard the new Embraer stuff is really good for XP12.

I have the X-Crafts Emb195 v2.1.0 but haven't tested it since the last update.

Will do asap and will report back.

5 hours ago, jcomm said:

I have the X-Crafts Emb195 v2.1.0 but haven't tested it since the last update.

Will do asap and will report back.

I like the X-Craft ERJ and E-jets.  Not totally "study level" but enough to be great planes that fill a very important niche in commercial aircraft.  I also like their attitude and support.

12 hours ago, ryanbatc said:

This is true however it's likely for XP13 - quite a ways off.

As for airliners I've heard the new Embraer stuff is really good for XP12.

Maybe next year...

Yeah dlss and next gen scenery, both would be reserved for xp13. Would be a major selling point.

Not sure why the proprietary Nvidia-only DLSS is always demanded when the open source FSR 3.x works in the same way and is GPU agnostic, causing less maintenance issues for Laminar.

40 minutes ago, Bjoern said:

Not sure why the proprietary Nvidia-only DLSS is always demanded when the open source FSR 3.x works in the same way and is GPU agnostic, causing less maintenance issues for Laminar.

Marketing 

15 hours ago, mSparks said:

Marketing 

Must be.