Funny to see that all variants share the same soundset then, IAE go CFM there. Talking about a 50+ dollar addon here that goes light on the systems and has its focus on appearance and sound. Well, at least it should.

I don't know where this repeatedly written $50+ is coming from; it clearly states the price on the Aerosoft website as being $40.55!!

Has anyone had a problem calibrating their throttles? I have a problem where when I retard the throttles to idle, just before I hit the stops, N1 jumps to 75%. It does this with my Saitek throttle quadrant and my Saitek AV8R.

I don't know where this repeatedly written $50+ is coming from; it clearly states the price on the Aerosoft website as being $40.55!!

Some stories have lift of and lead lives of their own. Some people just want to read, what they want to read and some are negative no matter what you do.

Has anyone had a problem calibrating their throttles? I have a problem where when I retard the throttles to idle, just before I hit the stops, N1 jumps to 75%. It does this with my Saitek throttle quadrant and my Saitek AV8R.

There has been reports (2) of problems with the Saitek throttle quadrant. Some testers, that have the throttles said that they would try to see if they could reproduce the things being reported.

Has anyone had a problem calibrating their throttles? I have a problem where when I retard the throttles to idle, just before I hit the stops, N1 jumps to 75%. It does this with my Saitek throttle quadrant and my Saitek AV8R.

Not that this helps, but I'm using a Saitek X-52 with default settings, no FSUIPC etc and haven't had any problems.

I was originally skeptical about purchasing the Airbus because of the Saitek issues but it works fine with my TQ's. It really turned out to be a non-issue for me. Look at posts 55-66 in this thread.I have not had a lot of time to play with this aircraft but I think it is a good value. It would be a better value if they added the A319 and A318. It has a few kinks but they seem to be working on them.As for the SIDs and STARs, they are not important to me. I use the default ATC and they don't use them. You also can't use VNAV with the default ATC. I would consider switching to something like Radar Contact if someone can link me to a video that doesn't sound robotic I would consider it; the ones I have heard sound robotic. Right now, if you want uber realistic navigation, you have to trade off the use of ATC. It is all about trade offs. In many cases (not all), if you make one aspect of FSX more realistic, you have to make something else less realistic. You need to take a balanced approach and I think that is what Aerosoft has strived to do. Also, as far as SIDs and STARs are concerned, I recall a couple RW pilots (AVSIM staff members) saying that they are rarely used so Aerosoft is not the only entity that has stated this. I'm not a pilot so I can't confirm either position.

The European customers mostly pay in Euro and 40 Euro (which is the current price) give you 50,9 US-Dollar. Might be that some stories have a more then true core :wink:But nice to see that some customers pay less on that (in my eyes) overpriced thing."Value" usually is defined by the amount and quality of the purchased goods. Paying 40 Euro or 50+ Dollars and then calming yourself with "actually, I don't tuse that stuff the others are talking about" might help you but won't change the given value of that product.I'd also like to know where those "pilots" come from that state SIDs and STARs to be used less often. But that's not the point, Aerosoft states this lack of this function clearly and the only thing that sets me up about it is that "they don't use these things in the real world too" mentality which is completely wrong unless you fly a small GA aircraft or somewhere with only gras runways.Check the value of that Just Flight Airbus offer and then tell my that the Aerosoft has a good one.Talking about a special development, cooperation with rw pilots and then going for the price of an superb SimCheck Airbus while only offering standard fly by wire, faulty autopilots and buggy autoland features isn't the best way to satisfy customers. Light systems, good sound and optics only are on target, a price range at and above 50 Dollars are another.As you can read above (and check in the folders if you bought it), this "nice sound" thing wasn't done correctly because IAE and CFM share one sound set. Worth the price when reading about such details?People paid a high price for that Aerosoft label while having quality, function and stable products in mind. Now look in every flight sim forum you like, did they get it?

Some people just want to read, what they want to read and some are negative no matter what you do

See me complaining about non objective things, Sir? See me arguing over other flight sim products around AVSIM (and I own quite a few)?Right, so please stop telling me about a "negative no matter what you do" mind, ok? Thanks, much appreciated.

Value is relative and I'm willing to give Aerosoft a chance before I state categorically I regret buying it. Airplanes like this (if they get it working right) and the CLS MD-80 look good and are not very demanding after a day's work where you just want a quick flight.So someone educate me what I've lost in disabling FBW. Seems to me the airplane responds better. I can't believe those laggy, saggy, mushy controls are anything close to representing what it is like to fly an Airbus. What am I really missing other than a line in the config file?

"Value" usually is defined by the amount and quality of the purchased goods. Paying 40 Euro or 50+ Dollars and then calming yourself with "actually, I don't tuse that stuff the others are talking about" might help you but won't change the given value of that product.See me complaining about non objective things, Sir?

I'm not sure if you were referring to my post but the term "value" can be subjective or objective. I said, "I have not had a lot of time to play with this aircraft but I think it is a good value." It is my opinion - what I think is a good value can be different from what you think is a good value. We disagree - no problem with that.

CoolP Live rates at 2010.09.10 20:15:00 UTC 40.55 USD = 31.9046 EUR

I'd also like to know where those "pilots" come from that state SIDs and STARs to be used less often. But that's not the point, Aerosoft states this lack of this function clearly and the only thing that sets me up about it is that "they don't use these things in the real world too" mentality which is completely wrong unless you fly a small GA aircraft or somewhere with only grass runways.

I have a couple thousand hours of commercial piloting that will weigh in here.SIDs/STARs are used frequently in real world flying.However, thousands of thousands of hours are racked up every year by pilots flying them by entering data manually. Would it happen in an Airbus? Probably not. But you can't act like it is impossible and unrealistic to do so. Plenty of private jets that operate in the worlds busiest airspace either do not have an FMS capable, or the company does not keep up to date on digital uploads, so the database can't be relied on.

...However, thousands of thousands of hours are racked up every year by pilots flying them by entering data manually. Would it happen in an Airbus? Probably not. But you can't act like it is impossible and unrealistic to do so. Plenty of private jets that operate in the worlds busiest airspace either do not have an FMS capable, or the company does not keep up to date on digital uploads, so the database can't be relied on.

This is true, but they have two pilots flying the plane. In a sim there's only one pilot and adding all the waypoints and altitude restrictions manually would of course drastically increase the work load.More importantly, it wouldnt be realistic when it comes to the A320 series, and realism is really what makes a simulator fun and interesting for me.

Regarding the price.I paid 31.89 euros.When you log onto aerosoft.com you will be given a choice as to which country/region you log onto.If you click on the European countries the price is 37.95 euros and that includes 19% sales tax.If you click onto the USA and other countries the price is $40.55US but you get charged in euros which is why I paid 31.89 euros.

Fellow captains, would you please acknowledge that a huge amount of customers can't buy on Aerosoft.com and therefor have to pay 40 Euros?Yes, there are some countries on planet earth and not all of them have the same tax and price model. If you ask mister Kok himself about the biggest flight sim market on this planet, he will tell you: Germany, which for example is such a 40 Euros country.But even when going for your mentioned lower price, this thing is overpriced if you regard offers from Just Flight for example.40 Euros are the range of addons like e. g. the Simcheck A300 and this one surely is a diamond and includes no standard FSX functions (= big work for programmers) and great details.Thanks for confirming the use of SIDs and STARs in the real commercial aviation world, again. That fact isn't contested at all but every few posts in this thread it seems to develop a need for confirmation. I wonder why.In Aerosoft's mind, the same pilot that wants to just hop in and fly seems to program his waypoints bit by bit and if ATC changes the approach for him, he goes again. Looking very inconsequently to me. Maybe not in your eyes. I have to live with that.Again: I don't blame Aerosoft for not telling this fact to people, I blame them for then trying to tell the customers that those things aren't used in the rw.duckbilled, your personal meaning of "value" is of course respected. My explanation should target the objective one.So, gentlemen, is there anybody out there that can give some clear reasons to NOT see this release as a patchwork of standard FSX functions, very nice optics, only one nice sound set (although there're a two different engine types), a large amount of bugs and still a need for some major rework to get rid of bugs and inconsequential functions together with a too high price for that precious Aerosoft label?CoolP's opinion only? Well, you did read the other posts and forums, didn't you?

Fellow captains, would you please acknowledge that a huge amount of customers can't buy on Aerosoft.com and therefor have to pay 40 Euros?

You are digging that hole deeper and deeper, why don't you just admit that you are wrong and that you have some kind of vendetta against Aerosoft. Frankly I no longer wish to hear anything further from you about the Airbus X as I have yet to read anything constructive from you regarding this aircraft. Consider yourself ignored and thank you to AVSIM and the board developers for giving us the ability to ignore such people on the forum.

Not to talk in your position might be more constructive than you think and your decision is respected as well as your attitude towards people that wait for some even more constructive actions or insights than just clicking "ignore" when they don't talk the way you like it.Any proof for that "vendetta" stuff when looking around AVSIM, Sir?I had gathered some facts about this plane, you might want to read them before blaming me for being just emotional driven or something.I was wrong? Where? Buying this thing in your country might be less pricey, in mine it still is. But even in your country this thing will be priced like some far more complex and bug-free stuff, doesn't it?So that "you're wrong" is free to be judged by other readers, nice function too.So I've stated some facts and everybody can feel free to read or ignore them. I hope you like that thing if you've already bought it and I hope you think about alternatives (which I mentioned too) if you're up to buying it.Forums are filled with opinions, that's what they are good for. Some people amend facts like I did and the reader then judges if somebody is dazzled or objective. I like it like this and won't ignore other peoples opinions in the future. Why should I?