December 15, 201114 yr Just a heads up, AS2012 has been pre-released for ASE users...Long download coming up me thinks!http://forum.avsim.n...-for-ase-users/ Craig Sells
December 15, 201114 yr Is it free for ASE user, is that what you are saying? Ron Hamilton "95% is half the truth, but most of it is lies, but if you read half of what is written, you'll be okay." __ Honey Boo Boo's Mom
December 15, 201114 yr I think if you look at the link, it states 40% off for registered ASE users.Full public release is on Monday the 19th - 4 days from now... Don B
December 15, 201114 yr Commercial Member The pre-release is for ASE users only, and is a special promotion to give ASE customers a chance to upgrade and use AS2012 before anyone else, and receive an exclusive discount.As stated, the official public release is Monday the 19th. Damian ClarkHiFi Simulation Technologies
December 15, 201114 yr Holy cow...the discounted upgrade price is 30 euros (~42 USD), and the full price after this Sunday is a whopping 50 euros (~70 USD).What's new in this new version for those of us that already have good HD cloud sets in our other addons? Beyond the cloud textures, I honestly I don't see much that isn't already built into ASE... Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
December 15, 201114 yr Commercial Member Hi Bob,There are tons of screenshots , a video, a feature list, product page, online documentation and of course our forum here at AVSIM which has discussed the very same questions (including a thread here too).Also, your currency conversion is a little off, as well as the price after Sunday which will be 39.99EUR, during our Introductory Sales Event open to everyone. Damian ClarkHiFi Simulation Technologies
December 15, 201114 yr Hi Bob,There are tons of screenshots , a video, a feature list, product page, online documentation and of course our forum here at AVSIM which has discussed the very same questions (including a thread here too).Also, your currency conversion is a little off, as well as the price after Sunday which will be 39.99EUR, during our Introductory Sales Event open to everyone.OK, riddle me this, then. The Simmarket site shows 49.99 euros lined out (without VAT), with a discounted price of 29.99 euros. 40% off of 49.99 is indeed the current price of 30 euros. If the non-discounted price is going to be 39.99, then the current price of 29.99 isn't 40% off as advertised...it's really 25% off.Yes, my conversion is a bit high...it's more like ~$40 and $66 US for the Simmarket-advertised prices. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
December 15, 201114 yr Commercial Member The retail price is 49.99EUR. The current pre-release price for ASE users is 40% off of that. The introductory sales pricing on Monday IS discounted as well, 20% off the retail price, which expires 3 weeks after. This may all make more sense if you view our pricing details announcement on our website (news). Damian ClarkHiFi Simulation Technologies
December 15, 201114 yr Hi Damian,Will this program solve the transparent clouds problem? In other words, will it produce a solid undercast? "A good landing is one you can walk away from. An excellent landing is one you can taxi away from." Bill in Colorado: Retired Comm: ASEL/AMEL/Instrument CFI: ASEL/AMEL/Instrument
December 15, 201114 yr The retail price is 49.99EUR. The current pre-release price for ASE users is 40% off of that. The introductory sales pricing on Monday IS discounted as well, 20% off the retail price, which expires 3 weeks after. This may all make more sense if you view our pricing details announcement on our website (news).You need to add VAT if you live in europe. So It's not 29.99 but more like 36.
December 15, 201114 yr after any discount period, will it be full price for ASE owners, IE no ASE-AS2012-upgrade price..?
December 15, 201114 yr The transparent cloud issue is an fsx limitation has nothing to do with ase or Rex or anything like that. Part of the problem is that fax only uses 2d clouds....not 3d which is kinda crap but what are u going to do. I might get the new ase I donno I like the ase I have now and I really don't know how they could improve on it. My textures are from Rex and I really don't think Rex can be improved on so who knows Ron Hamilton "95% is half the truth, but most of it is lies, but if you read half of what is written, you'll be okay." __ Honey Boo Boo's Mom
December 15, 201114 yr Commercial Member Hi Damian,Will this program solve the transparent clouds problem? In other words, will it produce a solid undercast?As mentioned there are limitations, but we have certainly worked on this for AS2012. Please check out the cloud screenshots on our website, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.after any discount period, will it be full price for ASE owners, IE no ASE-AS2012-upgrade price..?The pre-release event expires on the 19th, when we will have an Introductory sales period of 20% off that everyone can take advantage of and it lasts for 3 weeks. If you're an ASE upgrader who wants to participate in the pre-release but can't for whatever reason, please contact us and we'll take care of you. Damian ClarkHiFi Simulation Technologies
December 15, 201114 yr I can't help it. The sim limitations are the same since FSX came out, the weather engine improvements get described vague and the 'discount' price is a tough one if one isn't looking for textures but for an improved ASE weather engine only.Is there something like that or is it just about the textures? How about a weather engine only 2012? Would be much appreciated and may come in way cheaper. Don't read this the wrong way, the discount idea for existing customers is a nice character trait. But maybe some of us aren't interested in the texture part.Yes, I've read the salesmen texts in the Hifi forum and on the site and while I don't have a doubt that extra work went into the old ASE engine, I wonder if the guys looking for a more stable weather impression will see an improvement worth the extra costs. So if one already runs REX, which is discounted by 50% these days (~ 17.50 Euros for the full set), I fail to catch the point that should trigger some 36 Euros on a product I already own, which is ASE.Sceptical, I know. Looking forward to user reports which may describe some improvements on e. g. the 'advanced interpolation'. The retail price is 49.99EURThe European folks don't pay that retail, they pay the price plus VAT, which ends up at approx 60 Euros. So a more or less huge part of your customers can't calculate with that retail price, unless they want to get into trouble with their governmental forces.
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