August 30, 201213 yr Commercial Member I also don't know why a good Airbus sim is so difficult to make How long have you got..? :smile: Andrew Wilson
August 30, 201213 yr Flying the Airbus is not the same as the Boeings. They went to great lengths to be different. I found several rw manuals from various airlines around the world available for download two years ago when JF and Aerosoft were just bringing their A320/321 to market, At that time, both were considered Lite versions so the rw stuff was just fluff. This time around, it should be very different. Ray Hi Ray, Can you elaborate? How different? Less work, more work in the cockpit? I am only a beginner with the NGX, plus it has the FS2crew add-on which supposed to reduce your work load. If the Airbus X Extended is focused on the left seat work, I deduce that the co-pilot work is part of the simulation? I have been always interested in Airliners but my free times are less and less these days. Thanks [/font][/color] How long have you got..? :smile: I am a noob when it comes to complex airliner, but it seems that simulate an Airbus with FSX is difficult to do well, given the negative reviews with the Wilco Airbuses. Vu Pham i7-13700K 5.2 GHz OC, 64 GB RAM, RTX5090, SSD for Sim, SSD for system. MSFS2020, XP-12, DCS
August 30, 201213 yr I have most of the PMDG offering and had the NGX from day of release and a warmup with the iFly for a couple of months prior. One of the things that bugged me was the tutorial flight was the first leg of the tutorial and the destination flight was a year or more in the making. I'm seriously considering the AirbusX as it sounds like it will fit my allowable flight time if you know what i mean. I have the iFly NGX and have got to grips with it, finally. I would like to know your thoughts quickly without digressing too much on how much difference their is in the PDMG?
August 30, 201213 yr I'm seriously considering the AirbusX as it sounds like it will fit my allowable flight time if you know what i mean. I have the iFly NGX and have got to grips with it, finally. I would like to know your thoughts quickly without digressing too much on how much difference their is in the PDMG? Hi Ray, Can you elaborate? How different? Less work, more work in the cockpit? I am only a beginner with the NGX, plus it has the FS2crew add-on which supposed to reduce your work load. If the Airbus X Extended is focused on the left seat work, I deduce that the co-pilot work is part of the simulation? I have been always interested in Airliners but my free times are less and less these days. Thanks I am a noob when it comes to complex airliner, but it seems that simulate an Airbus with FSX is difficult to do well, given the negative reviews with the Wilco Airbuses. The two cockpits are just two totally different approaches to accomplish the same goal. I personally think Airbus went to great lengths to ensure they were using different methods, procedures and practices as far as practical within the worldwide established rules. I also think they succeeded quite well. Neither is necessarily more or less complicated than the other, The Airbus may be a bit more automated but still requires you to be on your toes all the time. I think there are times when I am guessing what the plane is doing or about to do and maybe I feel like I may know a little more about what is going on in the NGX. I like them both, just about equally and any simmer can be happy with either or both. The Airbus panel looks a little less complicated or less crowded than the 737NG to me. It probably is not actually, but it appears that way to me. I like the way Aerosoft does the documentation much better than PMDG. This is simply because I am not a Boeing airline pilot and I don't care to read 3,000 pages of mostly repetitive stuff. I had rather know where to find the answer and go get the info and get on with the flight rather than risking a strained back lifting all those real Boeing manuals. Aerosoft has leased the Airbus rights to the new FS2Crew RAAS program for the cockpit voices and whatever. It is going to be new to me but they say it is a real improvement to the simulation. Ray When Pigs Fly . Ray Marshall .
August 30, 201213 yr I'm seriously considering the AirbusX as it sounds like it will fit my allowable flight time if you know what i mean. I have the iFly NGX and have got to grips with it, finally. I would like to know your thoughts quickly without digressing too much on how much difference their is in the PDMG? I bought the IFly FSX NGX on the day of release and was peeved that I could never tell at the forums if they were talking about the FS9 or FSX versions and they were just different enough to be different. The paints were not interchangable and they did not write a tutorial flight for the FSX, just changed a few words on the cover page and called it the FSX version although it was dated two years earlier or something like that. Pis s ed me off royally. I did like flying it because it was a little better than the 737PIC from Wilco. Once the PMDG 737NGX was available I never flew the iFly again. I don't even have it installed on my PC. I don't want to start any type of comparison war between the two but my own personal opinion on a scale of 1 - 10, if I was rating the two from my limited experience with each - I would give the PMDG an 8.5 and the iFly a 3 or 4. They got lower ratings for not making a clean break between the FS9 and FSX versions, no tutorial for the FSX -ever, and taking soooooo very long to get updates available and lost serveral points for not having anywhere near as clear(as in higher definition) a VC as the PMDG version. I checked back like 6 months after I quit flying the iFly and they were still guesses at when the first big update would be available. They got an extra mark or two for having a lot of models. I especially like the 600 and 700 as small personal executive jets. PMDG lost half a point for only giving us half of the tutorial for almost a year, and not making a military variant. They lost another point for charging for the 600/700 models. Just my2 cents. I would recommend anyone that likes airliners to purchase the PMDG 737 NGX, MD-11F, and the 747 Queen of the Skies in that order. I have them. If I had to choose between the Airbus X Extended (it is still WIP) and the existing PMDG NGX I would flip a coin or throw a dart or pick up a rubber ducky or something like that. Ray When Pigs Fly . Ray Marshall .
August 30, 201213 yr Thanks Ray very informative. I agree with you that when I have a question I want to be able to find the answer quickly and what you describe feels where I want to be from a time constraint viewpoint. I did gain lots of insight with the iFly and also spent many a while wading through pages of info which when I found it the first time and then forgot it and needed to find it again consumed even more time. Boeing cockpits just feel good to me which is one reason I felt a little reluctant to go Airbus. From what you have said though, it sounds like I got to give it a go Bri
August 30, 201213 yr Thanks Ray very informative. I agree with you that when I have a question I want to be able to find the answer quickly and what you describe feels where I want to be from a time constraint viewpoint. I did gain lots of insight with the iFly and also spent many a while wading through pages of info which when I found it the first time and then forgot it and needed to find it again consumed even more time. Boeing cockpits just feel good to me which is one reason I felt a little reluctant to go Airbus. From what you have said though, it sounds like I got to give it a go Bri Don't think of them as one or the other. More like Mercedes vs Lexus or Piper vs Cessna or Audi vs Porsche. Just different. Ray When Pigs Fly . Ray Marshall .
August 30, 201213 yr And even more thanks for the comparison. I see the wallet getting much lighter lol Don't think of them as one or the other. More like Mercedes vs Lexus or Piper vs Cessna or Ford vs Chevy. Just different. Ray Yeah, I like your viewpoint
August 30, 201213 yr For those interested in the Airbus X Extended features and progress and daily reports from the Beta testers and developers go to. http://forum.aerosof...-2/page__st__80 The beta testers that have both FSX and P3d are saying the new Airbus has 20 -25% higher FPS in P3d. That is a lot of bang for the buck. You may need to join the forums - not sure. Ray When Pigs Fly . Ray Marshall .
August 31, 201213 yr For those that keep asking about the cockpit comparisons. Here is a simple look at the two. I don't want to turn this into a screenshot forum but . . . When Pigs Fly . Ray Marshall .
August 31, 201213 yr Author Wow! The Airbus X puts up a real threat to the NGX in terms of visual quality!
August 31, 201213 yr Funny... Not impressed at all with the AirbusX VC. Especially the gauges (DUs) : the colors, the ratios and the fonts are SOOO "Non-Airbus"... Then, no dimmable vc lighting and DU brightness for the AirbusX... This is a no brainer for me. The NGX still is much better graphically and in fonctionnality... Of course, this is just me... Best regards, Fritz ESSONO
August 31, 201213 yr Looks good - I wonder how it functions. I may get this because I am interested in learning Airbus compared to Boeing, however the other A320 also looks good which is due out later this year. Brent Lewis
August 31, 201213 yr Commercial Member Yeah will probably get both this and FSLabs version when it comes out as it will be probably the NGX of Airbus.
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