Spy satellites wold have seen it by now!

 

and if they were able to get it under cover in a hangar? (Which it looks like there are structures on that airfield maybe large enough to fit a 777)  Or maybe refueled, and flown off to an even  more remote and secure area (To them)? If that happened it could be anywhere.

 

 

That's  the only even remotely plausible fallout from the MH 370 story and that's not too likely to happen IMO. Even before this incident, I've always wondered why there weren't more limitations on who could buy ultra-realistic commercial aircraft add-ons for FSX. I'm certainly not in favor of such limitations, but maybe forcing PMDG to log how their product is used might deter people from using it for the wrong reason.

 

 

Terrorist truly make it bad for everybody... We all are victoms.

Terrorists have their reasons. A lot of governments are the real ones.

 

They will exist and continue to do so even if flight simulator is banned. Hijackings are older than computers. There is no worries, our hobby will not be banned!

 

 

New school of thought!

The Soviets pulled this type of conspiracy theory / stunt of an excuse 30 years ago w/ KAL 007.

The Soviets pulled this type of conspiracy theory / stunt of an excuse 30 years ago w/ KAL 007.

Not just the soviets, do a search for "Rescue 007"

 

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My opinion is they were hijacked.

 

Agree.  It has been known that the pilots have had an open cockpit occasionally and invited people in.  Terrorists usually make "dry runs" on an aircraft just to see the OP's.  Do they do this on all flights?  Seeing that passengers are occasionally invited into the cockpit on flights, they could have asked the flight attendants for permission or even asked the pilots while boarding.  The aircraft was nearing cruise altitude and about the time where the seat belts can be unfastened.   Just another theory but the bottom line it was most likely hijacked.  The only problem with this theory is the fact that I heard background investigations were conducted on all the passengers (except a couple of Russian passengers.  Russia is busy with other things right now).  But, who conducted the investigations and how thorough were they?  I do hope this is resolved eventually as it would be horrible to continue to see more and more theories popping up.  But, from day one I suspected a hijacking and I'm going to stay with that theory.

 

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I am sad that the civilian airliner got shot down, this is not acceptable but unfortunately the army had their reasons. It was an unknown airplane whom flew over a highly secretive air base, and it was clear that the plane was american built which could possibly have been an US military one. I am saddened by the loss of life, but unfortunately the plane strayed off it's course. Israel are doing exactly the same thing, shooting down planes that could possibly be civilian, and even worse, up to this day!

 

Adding to that, there has been another Korean airliner shot down in Russia. But fortunately they survived.

They also would have seen wreakage in the water by now. A plane can't be seen by satellite if it's purposely hidden. You'd have an easier time making out wreakage in the water.

 

This depends on what state it is in. If it soft landed it may have mostly stayed intact and sunk. If it hit hard their would be a lot more debris that would float away. Considering it has been this much time anything on the surface would be spread far out by now and floated far away from the point of impact.

 

Not sure what the spy satellite coverage is over the Indian Ocean but it is one of the most remote places on the planet so good chance nothing was watching it during the time of impact.

 

I lived in Nova Scotia during Swiss Air 111 and the pieces they took out of the ocean were brought to the airfield behind my house. I could see them from my front porch. The majority of those were lifted from the ocean floor and that plane hit hard and broke apart. Was sad to look at it. 

I am sad that the civilian airliner got shot down, this is not acceptable but unfortunately the army had their reasons. It was an unknown airplane whom flew over a highly secretive air base, and it was clear that the plane was american built which could possibly have been an US military one. I am saddened by the loss of life, but unfortunately the plane strayed off it's course. Israel are doing exactly the same thing, shooting down planes that could possibly be civilian, and even worse, up to this day!

 

Adding to that, there has been another Korean airliner shot down in Russia. But fortunately they survived.

 

Alot of the countries that I fly through have specific procedures and guidlines for entering the country. Usually its a specific set of points and specific frequency for contact when entering the FIR. Normally you give details such as over flight clearance and registration number. I have been stopped short of countries a couple of times due to a registration and overflight number mix up. This would happen if the a different aircraft was used for the flight and the registry wasn't updated quick enough. I've held for 45 minutes while on the phone back to the company, while the company coordinated on the phone with the entry country in the middle of the night. This was rare but could happen with short notice changes. I was always leery of route changes from ATC when transiting certain countries. I allways checked and confirmed the routing to ensure I would'nt fly near or through any restricted areas. I've been given short cuts that clipped airspace that I had no clearance over. I respectfully inform ATC of the issue and request to stay on route. I only blindly accept route changes in the U.S and U.K. I've flown into a few countries that have a few navy ships positioned right below the entry points. This is why I'm very keen on entry/clearance procedures.

Took 75 years to find Titanic with the best equipment possible and they KNEW it was in the North Atlantic... Now imagine I'd they had no idea and had to search the entire Atlantic.

 

To say they "would have found wreckage" is ludicrous when they don't know where to loom in an area larger than half the US.

Alot of the countries that I fly through have specific procedures and guidlines for entering the country. Usually its a specific set of points and specific frequency for contact when entering the FIR. Normally you give details such as over flight clearance and registration number. I have been stopped short of countries a couple of times due to a registration and overflight number mix up. This would happen if the a different aircraft was used for the flight and the registry wasn't updated quick enough. I've held for 45 minutes while on the phone back to the company, while the company coordinated on the phone with the entry country in the middle of the night. This was rare but could happen with short notice changes. I was always leery of route changes from ATC when transiting certain countries. I allways checked and confirmed the routing to ensure I would'nt fly near or through any restricted areas. I've been given short cuts that clipped airspace that I had no clearance over. I respectfully inform ATC of the issue and request to stay on route. I only blindly accept route changes in the U.S and U.K. I've flown into a few countries that have a few navy ships positioned right below the entry points. This is why I'm very keen on entry/clearance procedures.

Israel has a 2 hour ID rule on incoming traffic that they just raised to 3. There was a UA 777 that got a fighter escort a couple of years ago when they had radio issies and it came down to a visual confirmation from the fighter pilot to the UA pilots...

 

Finally, if they were at 5000 Feet their range would be significantly less than what people are calculating for normal range...

Nobody has noted the filmed crash landing on water of Ethiopian Airlines Flight 961.

This was a 767-200ER, hijacked in Nov 1996. It came down just offshore in the Comoros Islands- Indian Ocean after being seized by 3 persons and ditched as a result of fuel starvation. The crash was filmed by beach vacationers.

See Wikipedia for pics.

125 of 175 aboard died.

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The disappearance of 370 is so remarkable that almost any scenario seems possible.

One that hasn't been mentioned might be that perhaps it was orchestrated to overide and draw attention away from other dramatic world political events ocurring simultaneously.

In which case, the very mysterious disappearance of a big airliner would almost certainly overshadow the grabbing of some territory from another country.

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People vastly overestimate the omniscience of satellites and underestimate the size of the planet. The incredible resolution satellites can provide are fantastic at identifying objects if you know where to look, but the narrow field of view makes that magnification an impediment if you're just scanning to find something. An anology could be drawn to the sinking of the Titanic, where there was initially some blame placed on the fact the lookouts didn't have binoculars, but the reality was that while they could help identify a distant object once it was spotted, they were virtually useless for scanning the horizon at night unless they happened to be pointed directly at an object at the right time in part because of the narrow field of view.

 

The same is the case with MH370 - in particular if you're talking about scanning the ocean for debris much smaller than the size of a T7. Scanning the ocean with satellites (assuming there were even enough to provide coverage) over an area roughly the size of the US, at a resolution sufficient to distinguish debris???? Oh, and don't forget about cloud coverage. It's an almost impossible task, like finding a needle in a stack of needles.

 

Even over land - I remember when I was young, the "Bermuda Triangle" was a popular subject. Interested in unusual things as well as being a skeptic, it was a subject I read about, and I recall reading that there were more aircraft that disappeared over the continental US than in the so-called Bermuda Triangle. Of course, this was before the spy satellites of today, and we were talking about private aircraft as opposed to an airliner, but by the same token the population density of the US is quite a bit greater than sparsely populated ocean. The point is that while I have great faith in our ability to locate MH370, that is largely dependent on the people searching having far more details about the last known position than has been revealed. Otherwise I think it will be an act of luck to locate it.

I gave it some thought. We saw the landing on the Hudson and that A320 stayed afloat even the next morning when they pulled it out of the water, but it is smaller and landed on a calm river.

 

A 777 landing in an ocean would certainly break apart no matter how soft it landed. Yes that Ethiopian Airlines 767 gives a very good idea

 

 

Finally, if they were at 5000 Feet their range would be significantly less than what people are calculating for normal range...

 

If the purpose was to avoid radar, they would only have to do that over land, which there are only small islands in the Indian Ocean, so it wouldn't be for long durations. They can go back to cruise over the Ocean!

CNN needs to change it's wording on the flight sim angle. They are saying they found 5 airports in the Indian ocean on the pilots hard drive, I am pretty sure they mean 5 flights.