No, it didn't deserve to be killed. If you didn't like it, you could just ignore it and go back to FSX and X-Plane.

 

Yep, that's pretty much what most of us did.

Joshua Howard

 

Yep.

 

Flight had the guts of FS11, and thats the guy who put them on the floor.

 

DLC is not going to work. The well established "entire world" with add on expansion is the only thing that will. You can't give the entire planet on one release, then say you can only have islands in the middle of the ocean, and nothing else, on the next release. Its like taking away your classic muscle car, and giving you a Yugo in its place.

 

Not happening.

 

Like I've said a billion times... Nothing was keeping MS from having their own add ons for any of the sim releases. They could have ruled add ons. Its a shame that a two man operation like RealAir could scare MS so badly, that they figured they would just cut all 3P devs out! 

 

Correction; Joshua Howard, not MS.

 

Oh Lord Bill, please cast your healing power upon thy Simulator Franchise!

 

Ahhh thhhhheemp... X-plane and Outerra will be the next sims anyway. MS Blew it.

 

 

Edit After Thought; The vast majority fly heavy metal tube liners these days. They need the entire world. FL320 @ 500 knots around Hawaii aint gonna cut it.

Isn't bashing MS Flight kinda moot these days?  The haters won. 

 

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Isn't bashing MS Flight kinda moot these days?  The haters won. 

 

Hook

We're not discussing Flight. We're analyzing the statement they provided.

I wonder if this means MS will go after Lockheed Martin for LM's loose interpretation of their market for P3D.

 

 

 

Isn't bashing MS Flight kinda moot these days? The haters won.

We're not discussing Flight. We're analyzing the statement they provided.

 

You got a couple people on ignore, Diego?

 

 

 

Alaska in Flight! was barely better than FS9.
A Flight simulation where you could not fly between countries and without ATC and Ai or real weather deserved to be killed off.
Lets face it, the product failed because hardly anyone bothered with it despite the fact that it was free.
When you cannot even give your product away you have real problems and even MS realised that and killed it.

 

 

 

Edit After Thought; The vast majority fly heavy metal tube liners these days. They need the entire world. FL320 @ 500 knots around Hawaii aint gonna cut it.

 

Your original post was the best thing I've heard in a very long time.  I'm surprised Bill Gates is getting back into the game.

 

Hook

 

 

Your original post was the best thing I've heard in a very long time

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

I wonder if this means MS will go after Lockheed Martin for LM's loose interpretation of their market for P3D.

 

If you mean, P3D is doing well enough that MS got a whiff of that meal in the oven, then maybe thats a good thing (for us). If you mean MS is about to smack LM with a ruler, and send

them into the corner... eh..  I doubt it. FSX on LM life support is water under the bridge for MS (I suspect/assume, but you never know until the lawyers leave the room).

 

 

Thanks.

 

You weren't the original poster.  That would be linux731.

 

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I'm surprised Bill Gates is getting back into the game.

 

Hook

 

He almost lost his company fooling around with Steve Ballmer... He had to come back and get the company back on track else loose his legacy he worked so hard to build.

He almost lost his company fooling around with Steve Ballmer... He had to come back and get the company back on track else loose his legacy he worked so hard to build.

But he's not actually commanding anything, he's just on the board.

But he's not actually commanding anything, he's just on the board.

First off Bill now is head of the technology department so he's 'Commanding' allot. He stepped down from the board to help run the company and get it back on track. Now if you think for a moment the founder of the company has no power you're seriously missing the concept of the pecking order. Bill holds weight just showing up on the Microsoft campus let alone taking charge of all technologies Microsoft produces.

Bill is kind of doing what Steve Jobs did with Apple. Steve Jobs didn't have to go back, he was already the CEO of PIXAR, which would have seen him out for the rest of his life.

 

The reason to go back is it just really gets under your skin to see the company you started fall into disrepair......it just really makes your blood boil.

 

Steve Jobs went back to Apple as the iCEO, (Interim CEO) and refused pay at first, he did it because he wanted to and I am sure Bill feels kind of the same.

Just wanted to say this is an interesting thread with a lot of good points all around. Not sure if I'd want to see MS do another flight sim unless they took it as seriously or more seriously than FSX, but if they are willing to do so I am all in. If train sims can have so much success, with constant updates and a wealth of addons (even on Steam) I can't see why MS should give up on flight sims. 

more seriously than FSX

 

Well, I think that FSX was serious, but it got stuck between DX versions... I can't point to a link, but I did read that FS11 was going to be a fresh start, and have no backwards compatibility with any of the previous sims.. But sadly, we all know what happened.

 

FSX needed some help, and got allot of it from the community. Despite what flaws it ma have, something like the MilViz 350i is possible.. which I think is pretty incredible for an old program.

Just wanted to say this is an interesting thread with a lot of good points all around. Not sure if I'd want to see MS do another flight sim unless they took it as seriously or more seriously than FSX, but if they are willing to do so I am all in. If train sims can have so much success, with constant updates and a wealth of addons (even on Steam) I can't see why MS should give up on flight sims. 

They don't need a new one, they just need to fix the current one!