May 30, 201412 yr Just came in for a landing and was a little fast and flared a little too much. The Cherokee floated in ground effect just like the real thing (something I've done many times in real life). Very convincing. They've hit every little detail. This is as close to flying a real general aviation plane as you are going to get on a home simulator. agree. the potential for a nose wheel down first, if your landing pitch is wrong too, is also real to the real plane.
May 30, 201412 yr Just came in for a landing and was a little fast and flared a little too much. The Cherokee floated in ground effect just like the real thing (something I've done many times in real life).Very convincing. They've hit every little detail. This is as close to flying a real general aviation plane as you are going to get on a home simulator. Oh this IS good to hear from real world Cherokee experience, thank you for sharing. Cheers, Rob.
May 30, 201412 yr Sorry for the brief aside, but Lars W. was really Q_flyer, wasn't he? If so, I KNEW it. If not, than I'm a moron, and apologize in advance.
May 30, 201412 yr I've had a few nose wheel landings, which is not like me.... Is that accurate? Not sure what you're meaning is... - Paul Elliott http://www.avsim.com/topic/450607-amy-johnson-london-to-australia-attempt/
May 30, 201412 yr Sorry for the brief aside, but Lars W. was really Q_flyer, wasn't he? If so, I KNEW it. If not, than I'm a moron, and apologize in advance. Wait, what? EDIT: I see, he was banned and his username was changed. Was it really him?
May 30, 201412 yr Oh this IS good to hear from real world Cherokee experience, thank you for sharing Coming from you, Rob, this is indeed endorsement for me to get this. Thanks. Rick Almeida
May 31, 201412 yr Well, I do not own the Piper, but Alex, who owns it since day 1, and is working on his IFR ticket in a Piper pretty much the same model as this one, had reported, long before A2A released this masterpiece, that in his first flights he ran out of pitch for rounding up during landing. The aircraft really requires a well set approach and landing speed and good trim, and it's easy to float during the flare, and also to touch 3-points :-) So.... as he pointed out in his first commentaries and on a flight he did and I observed through Skype, A2A really captured all of the details of this Piper in their model! Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
May 31, 201412 yr I've had a few nose wheel landings, which is not like me.... Is that accurate? Not sure what you're meaning is... If you wait to flare too long, it's easy to run out of elevator authority and ending up 3-pointing or nose wheel first. In real life I've never hit the nose wheel first but I will testify that it's like flaring a semi-truck if you run out of speed over the runway and start dropping.
May 31, 201412 yr Did they get the toe brake piece worked out? I still cannot get the toe brakes on my Saitek pedals to work properly, even with the BrakeReleaseThreshold tweak. Kevin I worked around this by using fsuipc to send to sim as an axis and assigned them to the sim the normal way. That made mine work. See if it helps you. Cpt out. Best Regards, Robert J McGill
May 31, 201412 yr I picked up this gem last night, and as a former PA28 owner, I am completely amazed about the accuracy (sound, starting procedure, effects on poor management, the shop by itself is amazing, you can check compression, etc.), these guys have done a fantastic job. It took me back to my days flying my Cherokee in the NY area, the cockpit sounds, the quirks of that aircraft, everything feels like I am in the real thing. I cant stop flying this baby!!! one thing, it might be me as I have not flown GA in quite a while, but it seems that the nose is a bit too easy to come up while doing soft field takeoff.... again it could be me, but I remember my Cherokee taking longer to get the nose up... otherwise I have nothing bad to say about this master piece! Great job A2A, I would love for them to do a Mooney next! John
May 31, 201412 yr Something I noticed while watching videos of the Cherokee is that the door opens as soon as you click the handle. I don't think I've ever seen this in other FSX/P3D aircraft, where the door opens a few seconds after you click the handle (and it feels very unrealistic), and I don't think the A2A C172 had that either. Can anyone see if the Accu-Sim 2.0 update brought that ability to the C172 too?
June 1, 201412 yr Commercial Member Wow, wow, wow... After having spent some time now in this, it's really brilliant. I had considered the 172 to be the pinnacle of GA, but this tops it. Great job A2A! I guess I'm lucky to be flying this in FSX, because I'm thoroughly entertained. :lol: Jim Stewart Milviz Person.
June 1, 201412 yr I cant stop flying this baby!!! one thing, it might be me as I have not flown GA in quite a while, but it seems that the nose is a bit too easy to come up Agreed about the nose - I got my license in a Cherokee... I never felt I was going to tail strike like I do in this version ha. Also about Saitek toe brakes - thank goodness I'm not the only one - I have serious trouble taxiing this and the Cessna. Unless I'm just creeping along turning is very difficult. I don't have registered FSUIPC - never saw a need for it. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
June 1, 201412 yr Ryan, I'm surprised you dont have FSUIPC. To me it's worth the price alone for being able to set different control profiles depending on which aircraft gets loaded. Glenn Ryzen 3700X, X570 Pro Wifi, 32GB 3600mhz RAM, Nvidia Titan Xp "Galactic Empire", RM750x PSU, H700 case, 2x NVMe M2 SSD, 1x SATA SSD
June 1, 201412 yr I was the Chief Flight Instructor for the Piper dealer in Sacramento in the 60's and 70's and flew all the Pipers including the PA-28 in one form or another, a lot. That's why I bought the A2A Cherokee. I wanted to see just how close they got it to the real deal. Wow. This is an incredible simulation of the actual airplane as I remember it. The one minor exception being the nose being a little too anxious to pop up on take off. Other than that, it is the closest thing to real I have experienced in FSX. If you're on the fence on this one, go ahead and jump. You won't regret it. "A good landing is one you can walk away from. An excellent landing is one you can taxi away from." Bill in Colorado: Retired Comm: ASEL/AMEL/Instrument CFI: ASEL/AMEL/Instrument
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