So I pay $339 for the same component at today's exchange rates.

 

Ouch ... well at least the pound sterling is $1.53 for 1 pound ... vs the Euro which is pretty bad at $1.14 for 1 Euro.

 

Cheers, Rob.

Hi Rob,

 

I like the fact that it includes the option to lock the liquid to ambient temp to avoid condensation. That will be 26C/78F, I can live with that.

 

 

 

Mike_CFII_MEL, on 19 Feb 2015 - 12:09 AM, said:


I know one thing "I'm getting this cooler" for my overclock.



I was going to go that route for cooling also, but it had some less than positive reviews and since it's a chiller there is condensation draining that will need regular maintenance. BUT, with that said, I hope you do get it as I'd be VERY interested in your results and what you think of it.



Cheers, Rob.

Hi Rob,

 

I like the fact that it includes the option to lock the liquid to ambient temp to avoid condensation. That will be 26C/78F, I can live with that.

 

Here's my thing with this. It's $1,500. What I am trying to understand is need want and/or need for this?  Unless your are going for records in overclocking, in which case you should be using LN2, what good is it?  You can achieve similar result was a well designed water cooling loop. Mine was about ~$800. I can't see the cost to benefit ratio. 

Quick update, PC build is complete, OS installed (190+ windows updates, that took a while), UEFI updated to latest, ROG panel firmware updated, latest drivers installed ... running a IOgear simple 2 port (mouse/keyboard) switch so I can go back and forth between PC's easily using one keyboard/mouse.  HDMI 2.0 cables are run separately into 4K Sony so just do INPUT switch with remote for video change between PCs.

 

I went with AudioQuest Cinnamon HDMI 2.0 cable (guarantees 18Gbps) ... a little cheaper $100 for 6'  than my HDMI 2.0 Monster cable $130 for 6'  (guarantees 22Gbps).

 

 

 

UEFI

 

 

So far at 4.4 Ghz @ 2444 Mhz RAM and CPU temps still pretty good 79 F under load at max fan speeds (ambient is about 67 F) ... goal is 4.8Ghz @ 3000 Mhz.

 

As far as the Koolance chiller .... from what I've read you can hit a very stable 5.2 Ghz with a 5960X and right RAM combo (definitely will need highest quality CPU and VRM block).  I'm currently not running a VRM block as I don't think I need to with Motherboard to hit 4.8Ghz.

 

Cheers, Rob.

All my components arrive this Monday.

 

I will be very much interested in the OC steps

 

Russ

You have not water cooled your titans yet ? looks great

I honestly have found No benefit to OC the Titans, I did a short test with 106% OC and no difference other that it introduced vertical spikes and screen flashing.

Another update.

 

Spent the day OC testing and came up with two profiles:

 

5960X @ 4.8 Ghz (48 X 100 BCLK) 2400 Mhz  (CPU Vcore and Cache =  1.402v)

5960X @ 4.5 Ghz (36 x 125 BCLK) 3000 Mhz (CPU Vcore and Cache = 1.340v)

 

Memory timings were not changed and used XMP profile (15-15-15-36 T2).

 

I used RealBench 1st to do OC validation.  If it passed RealBench then I moved to SiSoftware Sandra 2015 to do a memory bandwidth test, memory-cache latency test, and a final overall test (includes, GPU, memory, I/O, CPU, etc.).

 

Since the 4.8 Ghz OC profile ran high on voltage and heat peaked at 60 c  (thermal max is 67 c), I decided to go with the cooler and lower voltage 4.5 Ghz setup ... also the higher BCLK is preferred for overall system performance.  Lower BCLK and higher CPU ratios are good for benchmarks, my interest is overall performance so BCLK 125 Mhz is what I'll go with for now.

 

So here are some of the SiSoftware Sandra 2015 test results comparing my older PC 3960X 4.6Ghz 2133Mhz with my new PC 5960X 4.5Ghz 3000Mhz.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, enough of the benchmarks, time to move onto actual flying in P3D v2.5.  Tomorrow I'll install P3D now that I have stable OC profiles.

 

To be continued ....

 

Cheers, Rob.

63% difference? That's a lot on paper, for sure. I'm curious to see how p3d responds.

Looks good, Rob. Maybe I missed the answer, but are you using Windows 7 or something newer?

 

I'm doing a Haswell-E build next week and would dearly love to move on, but have had the usual P3D joystick problems with 8.1 and, now, the new 10 preview. Very annoying.

it would be interesting if you could comment on whether the results obtained above, fall within, below or exceed your expectations?

 

Pretty close to my expectations, especially the latency (lower is better and DDR3 provides lower latency than DDR4).

 

 

 

Maybe I missed the answer, but are you using Windows 7 or something newer?

 

Yes, staying with Win 7 Ultimate x64 ... for the very same reason about USB issues in Win 8 and Win 10.  

 

But Win7 also has USB issues, just the other day my old PC Win7 Ultimate also decided that it would "fail" to mount any USB disk class device (external hard drive, flash drive) ... google search reveals millions of hits of folks with the same problem ... after hours of trying to resolve I finally resolved it.  Solution was to uninstall the Intel USB drivers (of course this means as soon as I do that I have no mouse/keyboard) ... and there are two Intel driver entries (lucky my power button does a safe shutdown).  So the Windows "default" USB drivers load and problem is solve, USB stack cleared and USB drives now mount load.  BTW, this issue has been around since Windows 2000 ... so clearly Microsoft don't have a good handle on USB devices and sounds like they still don't in Win10.

 

Cheers, Rob.

 

EDIT: CPU temps were high under full load (RealBench) ... I think a water chiller setup would help here.  It's possible I may have add a tad too much thermal paste (2-3 grains of rice sized is all that is needed, I made a small X pattern).

It is kinda depressing that such foundational, rudimentary, OLD, technology gets such neglect.

 

I'm in the middle of a frustrating Windows Update Marathon on another machine wherein I've had to hard reset after every other restart in the seemingly never-ending process, because each partial update briefly farkles the keyboard and mouse such that I can't type in my password at login.

 

Every system has its flakiness, granted, but Windows can be positively byzantine with its back-alleys and dusty backwaters. 

Oh, forgot to ask, Rob. You might know this. In your experience with fancy-pants gear , does the Win8-10 USB illness also affect PFC, GoFlight, etc, or is it just Saitek and their crappy boxes?