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The 777 and the FlyTampa CYYZ - is it possible?

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A simple questions - have anyone here been able to complete a flight to FT CYYZ? I tried this evening with the lite texture pack, and I'm not able to land. I made save about 10 miles from the airport, and when loading it, I will run out of memory in about 2 minutes. It will start with 700 mb of free memory which goes fast towards zero. I know this a quite heavy scenery when it comes to memory, but I'm just curious if it's possible at all.

 

I have Orbx global + vector and ASN. AI-traffic set to 30 %. (Prepar3D 2.5 btw)

 

Can't wait for the 64-bit version...

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Try turning off some of the vector options like bridges, tunnels, underlays etc on non-major roads. Try with no AI.

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As Dugald has suggested, FlyTampa have issued a number of downloads to reduce the load the airport puts on the system. Chris's suggestion with Vector will save you resources as well. You might wish to check out their forum. Excellent support there. I should point out that CYYZ from FlyTampa, after making certain adjustments, leaves me with just about the same amount of VAS as the default airport in the PMDG 777 (yes I am a sucker for punishment). FlyTampa took a beating on this airport, but IMHO, it is the highest quality airport I have ever used. 

 

Just in addition, you can set your scenery complexity to normal or sparse; ;and it looks as good as anything else out there. Also, you can reduce your LOD radius to 2.5 without much loss of fidelity. Also, try unchecking anything in the configurator that is moderate or small. I keep the edge light fixtures, which are moderate, but that's just preference. What blows me away, is the airport, with reduced sliders has no shimmering or flickering textures. Amazing! If it seems I'm a fan of this scenery...I am. And proud of it. It's not getting a lot of love out there at the moment. But there's a lot of future proof in it.

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You can also disable photoscenery in the scenery library (via Scenery Config Editor) and you could try medium/moderate autogen settings.

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Did the following: Disabled the LC, reduce LOD radius to 3.0, and deselected most of the stuff in the configurator. So far it seems to work better. 

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One thing I do on most bigger and more detailed airports is to restart FSX after a while. If I'm going from EGLL to OMDB/CYUL/CYYZ/KJFK I know I already have a high VAS load due to EGLL+777. In the air that makes no problem but if approach the area of the airport I will get problems.

 

So if you have FSUIPC as payware version you can simply tick the option to use AutoSave. That will save everything and with the PMDG it works very well. I mostly restart FSX when over not detailed scenery or short before T/D. That can give you some more VAS space as the previous airport is out.

 

Hope that additional helps :)

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Try it with your normal setup but disable vector. The idea is you need to pick what addon to disable to avoid hitting your head on the glass ceiling.

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Someone in another thread said that RAAS consumes 300MB of VAS with the 777.  I was skeptical so I disabled it in the dll.xml and sure enough...guess who doesn't use RAAS anymore.

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You don't need the full version of FSUIPC. In fact, you don't need it at all. Simply save your flight and PMDG automatically detects that you've done so and will serialize your panel state, FMC, etc. Just exit the sim and reload your save file. Do it during cruise when it ain't no thang and you will have shed all of your "departure VAS." Works wonders. VAS issue solved.

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Someone in another thread said that RAAS consumes 300MB of VAS with the 777. I was skeptical so I disabled it in the dll.xml and sure enough...guess who doesn't use RAAS anymore.

It's all in the link below

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I can't even get the damn thing to run at more than 13FPS. Written it off. Aerosoft's Heathrow is butter smooth at nearly 25FPS. Don't understand what's going on with this piece of scenery.

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FlyTampa CYYZ has a lot of options that can be turned off via CYYZ option manager (3D people, deice trucks, animated runway winds (!)) -> don't need it, turn it off.

 

Hm, never flue there in a 777, gotta try it... perhaps LOWW or ESSA (my new airports) to CYYZ overnight.

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Even with everything turned off and the latest P3D tweak,FT/CYYZ still runs like a dog. Unless FlyTampa figures out how to release more frames, I'll just write it off as a bad investment and use the default or some other scenery.

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I'd like to post my experience in case it will help. I started out with lousy performance as well. There are a number of tools available from FlyTampa to improve performance. I won't bore you guys with the details. Everything is explained and available in the FlyTampa FlyToronto forum. Currently, I am at gate 174, in the PMDG 777-200 with 23 frames per second and 1.070 GB of VAS remaining.

 

Tweaks

OPTIMIZE_PARTS=1

FIBRE_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.15

UseGlobalTerrainView=True

 

Settings

 

Graphics

 

FXAA=off

MSAA 4 samples

Texture Filetering 8x

Texture resolution 1024

Tessellation enabled

Black-out Desktop on

Auto-fill Main View on

VSync off

Triple Buffering off

Target frame rate unlimited

 

Scenery

 

LOD 2.5000

Tessallation Factor 85

Mesh resolution 5M

Texture resolution 7cm

Land detail textures on

Scenery complexity dense

Autogen vegetation and buildings Normal

Water detail High

No water reflections

Bathymetry off

Special effects detail High

Special effects distance Medium

 

Lighting

 

Landing lights illuminate ground On

Lens flare On

HDR On

Shadow Map Count Medium

Enable Terrain to Receive Shadows On

Terrain Shadow Cast Distance 0M

Cloud Shadow Cast Distance 60,000M

Object Shadow Cast Distance 6,000M

Internal Vehicle Cast/Receive

External Vehicle Cast/Receive

 

Weather

 

Cloud draw distance 80 miles

Thermal visualization None

Volumetric Fog On

Cloud detail Detailed

Cloud coverage density Middle

Turbulence off

Change rate No changes

(I use ASN...so the above probably meaningless)

 

Traffic

 

Labels Off

Airline density 30

General aviation density 45

Airport vehicle density Middle

Road vehicles 10

Ships and ferries 20

Leisure boats 30

 

FlyTampa Configurator

 

Global Settings: March

 

Opaque glass

Everything off except:

Animated Link Train

Powerplant Smoke FX

Apron Lamp Halo FX

Pavement Wet FX

Pavement Grain FX

Taxiway Edgelight Units

Animated Windsocks

Animated Traffic Lights

 

Night Blending: FTX Global

 

I have the LITE CYYZ Textures installed

 

My System

 

I7 4770K clocked to 4.4Ghz

2x8GB RAM at 2133Mhz

EVGA GTX 780 Superclocked

Windows 7 64 bit on SSD

P3D 2.5.12944.0 on separate SSD

 

Addon Scenery 

(active in reality bubble)

 

FS Global Ultimate Mesh

FTX Global Textures

FTX Global Vector

FlyTampa CYYZ

REX 4 Direct with Soft Clouds

 

(inactive in reality bubble)

 

Simaddons CYTZ

 

Other Addons

 

ASN

GSX

EZDok

TrackIR5

Air Traffic Manager (set to delete all over 140 aircraft)

SuperTrafficBoard Server

FS Force 2

 

There it is. I don't know if this will be of value to anyone or not. Perhaps by comparison, someone might find an opportunity to improve performance. I can say that with the sliders as far left at CYYZ as they are, it is still the highest quality airport I own. That is with other airport's sliders much, much further to the right.

 

I have CYVR, KLAS, KJFK, KIAH, KDFW from FSDreamTeam. KDEN, KPHX, KIAD from Flightbeam. This is not to knock these fine vendors. They make great stuff. Rather it is a compliment to what is IMHO, the highest quality airport ever built. I'm not so much a fan of FlyTampa, as I am a fan of Toronto. I was born an hour down the Queen Elizabeth Way in St. Catharines, Ontario.

 

PS: I turned of FlyTampa CYYZ and used the default airport. There was very little difference in performance. It is a bear of an area. Hats off to FlyTampa for taking on what appears, at this moment, to be a monster.

 

Cheers

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I shot some circuits there in the 737NGX and then the 777 in P3D v2.4 with the base install of CYYZ from FlyTampa with no issues.  I am using FT CYYZ, ASN, FTX Global and Vector and REX Textures 4.0

 

No AI Traffic

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