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New iFly 747 P3Dv3 version

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I noticed that iFly / Flight 1 have released a new installer for the 747, specifically for P3Dv3.  (It can be used by anyone who bought the P3Dv2.x licence, or new v3 buyers, but obviously not FSX users, as it's a seperate licence.

 

I'm really interested in the iFly747 for P3Dv3, as I currently have no wide bodies in it.   I wanted to get the PMDG 777 and swanned over there with my credit card in hand yesterday, to discover it costs $134.99, which is out of my budget.    The iFly 747 costs $59 ; more my sorta league! :smile:

 

So........ is anyone using the new P3Dv3 version yet, and if so how is performance?  ... I understand this can be a pretty taxing addon on the system?

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Everything I have read regarding this aircraft points to it being fabulous and systems-heavy but the major down side is the terrible performance, PC-wise. Mind you, all this was for earlier versions of P3D and, like you Bill, I would love to hear about what it's like in P3D v3.

 

Can anyone give us a quick rundown on how it flies with all the latest versions? 

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put the $59 towards the 777, save and buy the 777. Don't think you going to save money your not, the 777 will run very well within v3 and you know your getting the very best. 

 

The PMDG 777 is a breath taking aircraft and worth every penny.

 

If you want a 747 wait till next year and get the PMDG version.

 

I bought the iFly 737 as it came out before the PMDG version, it was good but its not in the same class as the PMDG NG.

 

Like many, not all, but it this case you get what you pay for.

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put the $59 towards the 777, save and buy the 777. Don't think you going to save money your not, the 777 will run very well within v3 and you know your getting the very best. 

 

The PMDG 777 is a breath taking aircraft and worth every penny.

 

If you want a 747 wait till next year and get the PMDG version.

 

I bought the iFly 737 as it came out before the PMDG version, it was good but its not in the same class as the PMDG NG.

 

Like many, not all, but it this case you get what you pay for.

 

I second that. I guess, you already own the PMDG NGX? If not, then this would always be my first choice. If you want a long-hauler then either go for the PMDG 777 or wait for the new PMDG 747 v2...

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put the $59 towards the 777, save and buy the 777. Don't think you going to save money your not, the 777 will run very well within v3 and you know your getting the very best. 

 

The PMDG 777 is a breath taking aircraft and worth every penny.

 

If you want a 747 wait till next year and get the PMDG version.

 

I bought the iFly 737 as it came out before the PMDG version, it was good but its not in the same class as the PMDG NG.

 

Like many, not all, but it this case you get what you pay for.

I want to concur with what David said.  I too once owned the iFly 737 and experienced really bad performance as opposed to PMDG's line of aircraft.  Their NGX is well worth the cost, as well as the 777.  I don't have the two yet for P3D (held back by, what else, the cost and that I have them for FSX is a bummer) but anyways, I'm looking for the right time to get them purchased as no other developer has come close to the realism and performance of PMDG aircraft.

 

-Jim

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Actually after few weeks using I'm kind of started liking it. Yes it's is fps heavy in V3, but developers assured they soon have a patch to fix that problem. The only thing I'm missing is FS2CREW or similar app for iFly747 :)

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Thanks for the views guys.  

 

I should point out that I already own the FSX licence for the 777 and I own the NGX licences for FSX and P3D.

 

I also have the iFly 737NG and I agree that it is lightyears behind the PMDG models ...... but, I understand it dates to 2009, and that iFly's 747 is in another league (certainly seen evidence of that on visuals)    + see a couple of paras below :wink:

 

But I cannot (or perhaps it is that I will not) pay $134.99 for the 777 in P3D.  I'm not making any heavy or political statements in saying that, just choice.  A lot of it comes down to the fact that - as real life aircraft - I prefer and am more interested in the 747 than the 777.

 

One of the other main reasons I can't justify $134.99 on the 777 for P3D is that I am mainly a GA flyer, and the airliners are more of just a nice change for me now and again.

 

So .......... having said all that, I took the chance and bought the iFly 747 for P3Dv3 and it is absolutely sublime.  I love it.   Visuals, systems, flight dynamics and the sound are all first class and remind me a lot of the NGX's attention to quality.

 

It is a little heavy on performance, even in P3Dv3, but I found that by lowering autogen a little (which doesn't bother me for airliner fliyng), and turning off AI, I was able to get a smooth, constant 26-28FPS, even at payware airports like FlyTampa Vienna, Boston and Montreal.

 

iFly are also working and close to completing a patch for the P3Dv3 version that will further optimize coding and improve frame rates further.

 

So yes, I heartily recommend the iFly 747's P3Dv3 version, for anyone that wants a beautiful fidelity Queen on the Skies.

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Thanks for that report Bill, I've been thinking about this aircraft too. Already have the NGX in P3D3, the PMDG 777 in FSXSE and this might be my next purchase.

cheers,

 

Greg 

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The only thing I'm missing is FS2CREW or similar app for iFly747 :)

Multi Crew Experience (MCE) has supported the iFly 747-400v2 since release. A free demo is available from their website. The application is voice only, supports most of the important airliners for ALL sims, including XPlane, and is more flexible in operation than FS2Crew, versions of which I also own. I have no connection with MCE other than being a most satisfied user.

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JYW I would jump in boots and all and grab it. An SP has recently been released and another revision is due out very shortly which should help out those that might be experiencing poor performance.

It is a great aircraft and flies very well.
It would also pay to take a look at NickN's tuning guide:

 

http://www.simforums.com/forums/switch-to-p3d_topic53980_page1.html

 

It might help with setting up/optimising your sim.

 

Besides Flight 1 offer a 30 day money back guarantee so you have nothing to lose.

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I will add my 2cp and say that yes I like the plane. As others have said it is a little hard on the performance side of things as I get about 6-7 less FPS compared to the PMDG 777 but since the SP1 and in P3Dv3 I have not had an OOM yet and the plane itself flies really well. As someone mentioned about iFly have said they are working on a fix as well for the performance issue.

 

For me at least it was worth the cost.

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Are the interior and panel lights variable or just on and off? For the 757 I have for X Plane all interior and panel lights are variable. 

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Are the interior and panel lights variable or just on and off? For the 757 I have for X Plane all interior and panel lights are variable. 

 

Variable. You can adjust rheostat to adjust the brightness 

Multi Crew Experience (MCE) has supported the iFly 747-400v2 since release. A free demo is available from their website. The application is voice only, supports most of the important airliners for ALL sims, including XPlane, and is more flexible in operation than FS2Crew, versions of which I also own. I have no connection with MCE other than being a most satisfied user.

 

Thanks I looked at it already. Unfortunately I'm button kind of guy :) 

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"Variable. You can adjust rheostat to adjust the brightness"

 

Thanks, I hope you meant rheostats as in most or all of them. Also does the weather radar work well ( I do use ASN). 

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"Variable. You can adjust rheostat to adjust the brightness"

 

Thanks, I hope you meant rheostats as in most or all of them. Also does the weather radar work well ( I do use ASN). 

 

As far as I remember most of them. I haven't flown a lot at night in 747, but few time I did I dim them to my liking (it includes panels and instruments)

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Night lighting is stunning, and yes, I believe all of the appropriate lighting controls for the cockpit are variable.     The more I've flown this today, the more I'm flawed by it.   I do have the PMDG T7 (but only for FSX), and for me personally, I prefer this ... but a lot of that is because it's a 747 and not a 777.  :)

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Feedback sounds good, but performance is extremely important to me in a complex tubeliner. Getting 6-7 fps less than in the T7 from PMDG is a no-no for me. This would mean that flying in and out of EGLL is a stutter nightmare. I guess, I'll wait for the PMDG version... But good to hear that people are having fun with the iFly version...

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Night lighting is stunning, and yes, I believe all of the appropriate lighting controls for the cockpit are variable.     The more I've flown this today, the more I'm flawed by it.   I do have the PMDG T7 (but only for FSX), and for me personally, I prefer this ... but a lot of that is because it's a 747 and not a 777.  :)

That is a lot of recommendation, thanks. I also think the PMDG 777 for v3 is way too much to invest in just one airplane so this 747 sounds like the one for now. I also do not see the PMDG 747 v2 coming out within the next year and when it does it will be another 150 dollar airplane so no real use for me waiting for it.

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Feedback sounds good, but performance is extremely important to me in a complex tubeliner. Getting 6-7 fps less than in the T7 from PMDG is a no-no for me. This would mean that flying in and out of EGLL is a stutter nightmare. I guess, I'll wait for the PMDG version... But good to hear that people are having fun with the iFly version...

 

Would seem that someone would need a pretty high end rig to fly this aircraft. 

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Would seem that someone would need a pretty high end rig to fly this aircraft. 

 

Like any complex add on the higher your specs the better. There are guys getting better FPS than the T7 so I guess it really depends on your system and what add ons you have and the level of detail on the sliders. I have no issues with it at all. Even the T7 will crawl if you move the sliders to the right.

As I said before you get a 30 day refund option. So if you want to err on the side of caution then wait until the amended SP is out and then try it for 30 days?

What's to lose?

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Feedback sounds good, but performance is extremely important to me in a complex tubeliner. Getting 6-7 fps less than in the T7 from PMDG is a no-no for me. This would mean that flying in and out of EGLL is a stutter nightmare. I guess, I'll wait for the PMDG version... But good to hear that people are having fun with the iFly version...

 

It could be worth just following the iFly 747s continued development for now, as they are close to releasing a patch/update, intended purely to improve performance in P3Dv3.   They say they have found some significant areas where they've been able to optimize things.   So could be well worth waiting for that to be released and then keeping an eye on the reports to see what difference it makes.

 

 

There's no avoiding it, it really is a tough aircraft on PC/GPU resources - to use it smoothly at present requires a fairly liberal compromise in reducing settings.  For me it's worth it because I love the aircraft, but for others, the compromise will be too great.

 

Certainly not one you could even consider running at 4096 resolution, with autogen maxed and high quality shadows :smile:

 

But looking forward to seeing what the performance optimization update will bring.

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It could be worth just following the iFly 747s continued development for now, as they are close to releasing a patch/update, intended purely to improve performance in P3Dv3.   They say they have found some significant areas where they've been able to optimize things.   So could be well worth waiting for that to be released and then keeping an eye on the reports to see what difference it makes.

 

Will do! If it gets on par with the not yet released PMDG version in terms of performance, then it is certainly worth a try. Especially since there is a refund option. I would expect the PMDG version to be at least twice as expensive which is certainly a strong selling point for the iFly one...

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What is the small box with a screen at the lower right of the copilot ?

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Can anyone tell me if the cockpit lights have been fixed. There was talk of the cockpit not having flood lights for the panel. Also has the mouse dial use been fixed?

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