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How I Know P3D 4.0 Is Just Around The Corner

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After months of fiddling, new ORBX stuff, etc. my sim is totally dialed in and running 3.3 like a champ. Seems like perfect timing for LM to release an upgrade! :-)

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Quite Amusing.  Yes, even I got the clues from flyinside-fsx team.  Sooner or later a new release is imminent  :P

 

Just wait for my VR post. 

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Check Pete Dowson's holiday schedule too!

 

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Check Pete Dowson's holiday schedule too!

 

Was coming here to post just that! He's out till 20th August.

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Man, if they release P3D v4 this year, then I saved myself a pretty penny by just subscribing to the $10 month package.

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Not happy with that at all. Let us enjoy the power of 3.3 for 2 years. 

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Not happy with that at all. Let us enjoy the power of 3.3 for 2 years. 

 

Going to take a guarantee of 80 FPS minimum and free add ons forever to get me to switch from what I have now, which works perfectly. 

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I won't be upgrading and will wait until 5.0 as I just upgraded to v3.  I can't handle paying $200 every 6 months or so (or even 1 year or so!!).  I'm with G-YMML1.

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Not happy with that at all. Let us enjoy the power of 3.3 for 2 years. 

 

Ha!  I nominate this post for worst of the year, or at least the day.  If the product continues to progress and you are happy with your version and configuration, a new release doesn't affect you in the slightest.  However, what you suggest is quite simply stagnation and ought never to be any company's approach.  

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I need the new upgrade for VR.  Each new release will probably improve VR and high fidelity graphics.  I am so happy that I went with the $10 sub as there are months when I am not simming anyway.

 

Let the new upgrades come.  We all like shiny new things and I am sure things will break oh well (that is life in the sim world).  I am just grateful that we are getting updates from LM

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Ha!  I nominate this post for worst of the year, or at least the day.  If the product continues to progress and you are happy with your version and configuration, a new release doesn't affect you in the slightest.  However, what you suggest is quite simply stagnation and ought never to be any company's approach.  

 

 

Depends on your definition of "progress". I'd rather wait for two years to get major new release instead of cumulative SP pack. Versions 1 through 3 have been on 2-years schedule so far. I hope this tendency will continue for a sake of steady development and quality control. 

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Depends on your definition of "progress". I'd rather wait for two years to get major new release instead of cumulative SP pack. Versions 1 through 3 have been on 2-years schedule so far. I hope this tendency will continue for a sake of steady development and quality control. 

 

You can wait all you like.  My point is, your previous remark indicates you don't even wish for version 4.0 to be released any time soon.  

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Good thing is that nobody who doesn't want to upgrade has to. We still have folks happily running FSX2009, after all. More power to them! New stuff for those who want it, and continuity for those who want it. That's one of the great things about our hobby.

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Let's just fly now 3.3 is running very well..

 

Version 4 64bit ? At this point no need for it as I do not suffer from OOMs and enjoy some recently released v3.3 scenery.

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If v4 is 64 bit, AND it doesn't break compatibility with my addons AND it's not any more expensive than normal AND its a magic 1 stop fix for the usual problems (OOMs, blurrys, stutters, black textures) then I won't hesitate to upgrade immediately.

 

 

 

 

 

So it looks like I'm staying with v3 for the foreseeable future.

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Well whatever P3D version (x64) is coming, I have to wait untill PMDG brings my lovely 737 to the new sim. Also HiFi and FSDT (GSX) will take a while... So I don't jump into a 64 Version of P3D very soon.

 

At the moment I am very very happy with 3.3.5. No FPS and VAS problems whatsoever. 

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Ha! I nominate this post for worst of the year, or at least the day.

 

Ha!  You lost as his post and my post below his agree.  :smile:  So, are you going to nominate my post for being the second worst post of the year?  I hope you were just kidding when you posted your comments!!  I do not know about you, but I am finding this product expensive.  Each version (P3D, then V1, then V2, then V3, etc.) is equal to an upgrade equal to going from FS2000 to FS 2002, then FS2004 and then to FSX/Acceleration (in between each version is a bug fix or fixes such as V3, then V3.1, then 3.3, then 3.3.5) and they are supposed to occur every two years or so (just like Microsoft had envisioned).  Those "fixes" in between are free.  Now, if one buys the Professional version like me, then that's $199 every time I upgrade to a new Version (such as P3D, V1, V2, V3).  Every two years is okay but every 6-8 months?  LM is not renaming their product like Microsoft did.  They are just issuing version updates (with a bunch of minor "fixes" in between).  So that's what I think your nominee for being the worst poster of the year was trying to imply (or at least what I was trying to imply). 

 

Now, they can go ahead and upgrade to V4 and V5 and I can wait until V7 and save some money for the golf course and my car.  I guess that would be okay too.  I'm in no hurry.

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There was already a statement from ORBX' CEO John Venema that scenery for further Prepar3d main versions will have to be paid for.

 

BTW, I doubt Prepar3D4 (or whatever it will be called) will just be a 64 bit port which would be pretty lame as several comments show, If LM will have to break compatibility, it would be a good opportunity to resolve a number of long-standing issues like hard-coded runways/navaids, airport elevation issues, sloped runways etc.. Perhaps thay even could include an optional DX12 interface.

 

Just my personal guess. 

 

Kind regards, Michael

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Now, if one buys the Professional version like me, then that's $199 every time I upgrade to a new Version (such as P3D, V1, V2, V3). Every two years is okay but every 6-8 months? LM is not renaming their product like Microsoft did. They are just issuing version updates (with a bunch of minor "fixes" in between).

First of all, there isn't a new major new version every 6 to 8 months. Not even close. Secondly, calling the new versions 'updates' doesn't do the new version justice. Specially if not renaming is brought into this which of course is a bit nonsense. ;) Third: there is a reason most people buy the academic version which is just as cheap as any regular game out there. 50 bucks every few years is nothing compared to games that get a 'new' version every year (wgich never are renamed btw). Last: if 200 every two years is okay, then I think you are good with P3D because instead of 6 months it usually takes something like 2 years before a new version has been released. And of course, even if there are more new version released: no one forces you to buy them. You can decide to not buy more than one new Pro license every 2 year.

 

Anyway, IMHO it is a bit odd to request LM to keep v3.3 for 2 years now. Very odd. There is more than enough that can be improved: why wait 2 years wth that?

 

P.S. I don't expect v4 before 2017. Q4 2017 is more likely.

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it would be a good opportunity to resolve a number of long-standing issues like hard-coded runways/navaids, airport elevation issues, sloped runways etc..

 

This...+++  I'd be more excited to see this than 64b. All data that is subject to change should be in a data format that accommodates updates. Most of us already subscribe to navdata updates while the platform is frozen in time. Silly.

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On a side note... I just finished watching the Norwegian tv-series Acquitted. After comparing the airial shots from that series with my FTX Norway scenery... I think not even P3D v8 will cut it. We still got a long way to go so hurry up LM. Please, don't let us enjoy 3.3 for 2 years! ;)

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Ha!  You lost as his post and my post below his agree.  :smile:  So, are you going to nominate my post for being the second worst post of the year?  I hope you were just kidding when you posted your comments!!  I do not know about you, but I am finding this product expensive.  Each version (P3D, then V1, then V2, then V3, etc.) is equal to an upgrade equal to going from FS2000 to FS 2002, then FS2004 and then to FSX/Acceleration (in between each version is a bug fix or fixes such as V3, then V3.1, then 3.3, then 3.3.5) and they are supposed to occur every two years or so (just like Microsoft had envisioned).  Those "fixes" in between are free.  Now, if one buys the Professional version like me, then that's $199 every time I upgrade to a new Version (such as P3D, V1, V2, V3).  Every two years is okay but every 6-8 months?  LM is not renaming their product like Microsoft did.  They are just issuing version updates (with a bunch of minor "fixes" in between).  So that's what I think your nominee for being the worst poster of the year was trying to imply (or at least what I was trying to imply). 

 

Now, they can go ahead and upgrade to V4 and V5 and I can wait until V7 and save some money for the golf course and my car.  I guess that would be okay too.  I'm in no hurry.

I'm purchasing all this software in SA Rands so it's costing me a fortune! But for some reason, I always need the latest and greatest! At the moment of release! Can this be classified as an addiction? :smile:

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Man, if they release P3D v4 this year, then I saved myself a pretty penny by just subscribing to the $10 month package.

This is how I do it. Yes it's $120 a year but for a constantly moving target like P3D it works well. Hell, here in the UK it costs more than that to fill up my car with a tank of fuel!

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Anyway, IMHO it is a bit odd to request LM to keep v3.3 for 2 years now. Very odd. There is more than enough that can be improved: why wait 2 years wth that?

 

You totally misread by comments.  I did not say anything about v3.3 other than it's an update to fix V3.  V2 had many updates too.  It is my understanding major releases are P3D, V1, V2, V3, and someday, V4.

 

P3Dv3 was released on 30 Sep 2015 - http://www.prepar3d.com/news/2015/09/113061/.  I, and many others, paid for the Professional version or $199.00.  Going historically, the next major version (V4) (which everyone will be required to purchase just like they purchased V3) should be released in Sep 2017.  So, V3 is not even one year old and everyone wants to see the V4 (which they think might be 64bit capable).  I understand that.  But it will cost another $199 to go to V4 (and I haven't even had V3 installed a year yet!!!).

 

Isn't V4.0 the version the OP was talking about?

 

It's always good to talk about new versions and what will be in it or not but one has to understand the implications of a new 'major' version.  It will cost everyone a lot of money (and it hasn't even been a year since V3 was released!!) (Oh, maybe I said that already! :smile: ).

 

I will leave this discussion now as I hate to confuse everyone even more with my pathetic observations.  But, before I hit "Post", I hope LM continues work on V3 and continues to prepare for the release of V4 someday in the not so near future as they just released V3 less than a year ago!  I look forward to V3.4 soon. :dance:

 

Best regards,

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I look forward to V3.4 soon

 

   LM hasn't promised anything in the way of a v3.4. Unlike P3Dv2, where they announced, in advance, support up to v2.5. I wouldn't be be surprised if P3Dv3 ends before v3.4. Especially since most major outstanding issues have been resolved. From what I have gathered from the LM forums over the past 18 months, is that P3Dv3 was intended to be a stop gap, before going to x64. Which is why they openly asked, if the community would support another x32 version of P3D, if it offered improved vas handling. We voted a resounding "yes", with our wallets.

 just my .02c

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