troyboy66

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So I just decided to uninstall FSX and was thinking of reinstalling again. Then I thought wait, there are all these other options too. I already have have FSW and Aerofly2. FSW is amazing and seems very promising. Aerofly2 has a long way to go becaus of limited HD scenery. Then there is P3D4, the 64bit version, the closest thing to FSX because it shares many compatibility with scenery and aircraft. I feel lost and not sure what direction to take. Should I reinstall FSX or go for P3D? I'm reluctant to try P3D because so many are experiencing problems with CTD, and other problems. I pretty much resolved many of my problems in FSX and almost certain to be up and fying without issues if I were to reinstall again. But with P3D, I'm not sure. I have lots of Scenery from FSDT, FSbeam, LatinVFR, Taxi2gate, Flytampa. some ORBX stuff. Aircarfts include PMDG 777, and PMDG747. I am about to upgrade hardware to i7 7820X- LGA2066, Asus ROG strix X299 and windows 10 and memory to match. Here is what I have right now in terms of hardware: i7 3770K clocked at 4.6ghz, Corsair H100i, Asus GTX 1070 Strix, 16GB 1866 memory, MOBO is Asus Maximus V formula, Corsair 1000watt powersupply.

I guess I need some motivation if I was to go to P3D...the one fallback I know of right now is having to repurchase PMDG products again. Other than that, is it worth? What else do I need to be aware off? 

Thanks in advance

 

Troy                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

 

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It will cost you some money to replace some (not all) of your addons, no doubt, but for me there is no better simulator right now, not even close.  If you read around this forum you'll see a lot of people talking about why they are loving p3dv4.

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Yeah P3Dv4 is the only way. I also have FSW and AF2 both good in their own right (as well as XP11). But let's take FSW. You moved to that simulator but there is virtually no payware airports for it other than what you can port over from FSX/P3D (which some have been successful). Many payware airports have already been converted without cost to P3Dv4. Many of Carenado's planes have been ported over without cost. But for future proofing there is no other way but P3Dv4 given the length which people stuck with the 32 bit version you can imagine how long it will be for people to move from the 64 bit version.

 

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Hi,

I can come up with 64 reasons :) to go to P3dV4  if you have a stable I7 system. From my experience a great many CTD are do to an unstable overclock when the sim server is pushed close to limits. In any case  I not aware of a large number of CTD  as I've never seen one do to P3d. That is after over 200 hours of flying as all I do is fly; it is the most stable flight simulator I have seen, period. Many of your add-ons are compatible with P3d as I completely removed FSX from my server after 1 week using P3dV4.  Have fun!

Bob 

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The only ctd's i've had were self induced:

-unstable overclock

-fs9 ai traffic

both easily fixable, all good now :)

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The only sting you're facing is having to repurchase your PMDG birds. Other than that its a no brainer.

In the parallel universe scenario where you regret switching to Prepar3D V4, LM has a 60 day money back satisfaction guarantee. You cannot lose unless in the universe that you live in, that Money back guarantee doesn't exist! It does in the one I live in. I wish I lived in the universe where LM money back guarantee and the free PMDG upgrade also existed but I am skeptical about he existence of that universe because I have never heard anyone mention it. You might of course live in the parallel universe where DG FSW  or even FSX is better than Prepar3D V4. To determine if you live in that universe, take a look out the window. If you see a flying pig then don't waste your money on V4.

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Go P3d v4 and allocate some funds for PTA. It's a game changer.

You will also need at a minimum FTX Global & FTC LC. They are a must have and a free upgrade if you have them for FSX.

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There is no more evolution possible in fsx with 32 bits. A lot of editors annonced that they don't want creating future fsx addons.

Shure with P3D v4, you shall lost definitively some lovely addons... The editors must compiled new versions of aircrafts...

But p3dv4 is just born, it's day one ! As a new welcomer no perfect.

The OM nightmare was the biggest problem in fsx and precedent versions of P3d...

I think... 64 bits ;-) is the only solution for a futur developement in simulation.

First time I decided to keep mine old version, but now when I discovered the progress of visual qualities with most settings on max, I think that past is .... Past.

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If your current setup works fine, I'd stay where you are. If it's not broken, don't fix it.

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I still have FSX installed but I doubt that I will ever run it again.  The PMDG planes are a bit steep but I did get the 737.  Many of my other aircraft have been ported over along with my ORBX add-on's, Chase Plane, VoxATC, Active Sky ......  The P3Dv4 performance is better then FSX on my system and no CTD's so far. 

 

Bill

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It depends on what your preferences are.
If you want to fly low and slow, maybe FSW is the way to go. I don't have it, but it seems to focusing primarily on GA aircraft.
If you like flying the tubes, P3D V4 is a better option. But be prepard (pun intended) to spend some money on aircraft ans scenery
It is much much more developed then FSW but yes: It contains bugs, however none of them are show stoppers.

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Drop everything else.

Buy P3DV4 and XP11.  This is the real future of flight simulation for the next 10 years.

The rest are not. although Aerofly2 I have no experience with. Its just that these sims need tons of tender loving care, and speaking for myself I can't keep up with the two that I have.

Clean out your garage, move on to new and better. There are tons of stuff that worked in FSX that works in P3D. Some others you will need to buy. Start slow.

XP is better out of the box. There are bizillions of freeware addons and plugins that enhance it greatly. There are a few necessary payware, just like P3D that you would need to give one great flying satisfaction.

Bryan

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Don't feel like you have to rebuy every addon.

If you have a bunch of PMDG birds, how many do you actually still use? I'd start with something like the 737 and go have fun. Not having every single addon you had in FSX shouldn't be a deciding factor as long as you have the important ones (scenery + weather related mostly).

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2 hours ago, troyboy66 said:

I'm reluctant to try P3D because so many are experiencing problems with CTD

<citation needed>

Seriously, what are you talking about?  I haven't had a single CTD yet in v4.

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Hi Troy,

Welcome to AVSIM's major pre-occupation, "sim-wars".

Most of us (these guys above) could not agree that water is wet.

For us to agree that for the most part P3Dv4 is a game-changer is like a break in the law of gravity, but we do. 

P3Dv4 is a major event, and in my opinion, a singular victor in the sim-wars, for now.

If there is a second place, it belongs to X-plane.

Have fun, whatever you decide.

Kind regards,

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37 minutes ago, RoboRay said:

<citation needed>

Seriously, what are you talking about?  I haven't had a single CTD yet in v4.

Just watching reports from Avsim front page. But thats good to know.

 

Troy

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Ok sounds like P3D it is. Thanks everyone for your input. I thinki I will start working on the change ASAP. I know that a new hardware might not be neccessary, but I like new stuff...Im a sucker for it :). Are there any objections against the i7 7820X? I've read some good repports about it.

 

Troy

 

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48 minutes ago, SpiritFlyer said:

Hi Troy,

Welcome to AVSIM's major pre-occupation, "sim-wars".

Most of us (these guys above) could not agree that water is wet.

For us to agree that for the most part P3Dv4 is a game-changer is like a break in the law of gravity, but we do. 

P3Dv4 is a major event, and in my opinion, a singular victor in the sim-wars, for now.

If there is a second place, it belongs to X-plane.

Have fun, whatever you decide.

Kind regards,

Like you're not adding to it by referring to it as "sim wars".

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Hey Troy,

If you go for P3Dv4, even considering the PMDG re-investment costs, I doubt you will regret it!

3 weeks ago, I was a "FSX only" simmer.  Now my time is split (almost 50/50) between P3Dv4 and X-Plane 11.   I am the happiest with my sims that I've ever been, in over 15 years of simming.

P3Dv4 and X-Plane compliment eachother by having strengths in different areas.  It really in "Simheaven" having and enjoying them both. 

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17 minutes ago, JYW said:

P3Dv4 and X-Plane compliment eachother by having strengths in different areas.  It really in "Simheaven" having and enjoying them both. 

This man speaks the truth! :)

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Troy,

Nobody has yet mentioned this but....

Why not keep FSX (with all your lovely add-ons) 

Buy P3Dv4 (three month trial) .... suck it and seelol

Maybe even take a peek at XPlane11 ..... lots and lots of lovely freeware (dont know about money back if  not satisified)

You can run all three on the same computer and your new system should keep all of those platforms in line.

Your options are endless and initially fairly cheap.  As stated before, you can utilise many of your previously purchased add-ons with P3Dv4.

For me, this is a no brainer. Good luck ... sit back and enjoy all of 'em

Regards

Tony chilcott

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Since you'll likely be reinstalling a lot of stuff, consider GEXP3D and UTX ans an alternative to FTX Global & Vector.  I have both on two similar systems and my preference is the GEXP3D UTX combo for accuracy, performance and visuals.

Vic

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2 hours ago, vgbaron said:

Since you'll likely be reinstalling a lot of stuff, consider GEXP3D and UTX ans an alternative to FTX Global & Vector.  I have both on two similar systems and my preference is the GEXP3D UTX combo for accuracy, performance and visuals.

Vic

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6 hours ago, troyboy66 said:

Ok sounds like P3D it is. Thanks everyone for your input. I thinki I will start working on the change ASAP. I know that a new hardware might not be neccessary, but I like new stuff...Im a sucker for it :). Are there any objections against the i7 7820X? I've read some good repports about it.

 

Troy

 

Several tests I've seen the i7-7700k is still king over this cpu particularly in gaming.

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8 hours ago, troyboy66 said:

Are there any objections against the i7 7820X?

If I where you, I would go with a i7 that has less cores but a substantial higher base clock frequency. Like the 7700K 4.2-4.5Ghz.
Half the price and most likely for P3D equally as fast, if not faster. 
Even more, the price difference I would definately spend on a GTX 1080i instead of a 1070
But I'm not a CPU specialist, maybe others can chime in.
 

 

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