August 12, 20178 yr Author 37 minutes ago, RoboRay said: <citation needed> Seriously, what are you talking about? I haven't had a single CTD yet in v4. Just watching reports from Avsim front page. But thats good to know. Troy Troy Kemp Win 11 64 Pro on 1TB nvme + 500GB ssd / P3Dv5.3+ on 1TB nvme+ 250GB with P3D addons / MS2020 2TB nvme /I9 13900K@ 5.8ghz / 32GB DDR4 3600mhz / MSI MPG Z690 DDR4 with wifi / RTX 4090FE
August 12, 20178 yr Author Ok sounds like P3D it is. Thanks everyone for your input. I thinki I will start working on the change ASAP. I know that a new hardware might not be neccessary, but I like new stuff...Im a sucker for it :). Are there any objections against the i7 7820X? I've read some good repports about it. Troy Troy Kemp Win 11 64 Pro on 1TB nvme + 500GB ssd / P3Dv5.3+ on 1TB nvme+ 250GB with P3D addons / MS2020 2TB nvme /I9 13900K@ 5.8ghz / 32GB DDR4 3600mhz / MSI MPG Z690 DDR4 with wifi / RTX 4090FE
August 12, 20178 yr 48 minutes ago, SpiritFlyer said: Hi Troy, Welcome to AVSIM's major pre-occupation, "sim-wars". Most of us (these guys above) could not agree that water is wet. For us to agree that for the most part P3Dv4 is a game-changer is like a break in the law of gravity, but we do. P3Dv4 is a major event, and in my opinion, a singular victor in the sim-wars, for now. If there is a second place, it belongs to X-plane. Have fun, whatever you decide. Kind regards, Like you're not adding to it by referring to it as "sim wars".
August 12, 20178 yr Hey Troy, If you go for P3Dv4, even considering the PMDG re-investment costs, I doubt you will regret it! 3 weeks ago, I was a "FSX only" simmer. Now my time is split (almost 50/50) between P3Dv4 and X-Plane 11. I am the happiest with my sims that I've ever been, in over 15 years of simming. P3Dv4 and X-Plane compliment eachother by having strengths in different areas. It really in "Simheaven" having and enjoying them both. Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
August 12, 20178 yr 17 minutes ago, JYW said: P3Dv4 and X-Plane compliment eachother by having strengths in different areas. It really in "Simheaven" having and enjoying them both. This man speaks the truth! :)
August 12, 20178 yr Troy, Nobody has yet mentioned this but.... Why not keep FSX (with all your lovely add-ons) Buy P3Dv4 (three month trial) .... suck it and seelol Maybe even take a peek at XPlane11 ..... lots and lots of lovely freeware (dont know about money back if not satisified) You can run all three on the same computer and your new system should keep all of those platforms in line. Your options are endless and initially fairly cheap. As stated before, you can utilise many of your previously purchased add-ons with P3Dv4. For me, this is a no brainer. Good luck ... sit back and enjoy all of 'em Regards Tony chilcott Tony Chilcott. My System. Motherboard. ASRock Taichi X570 CPU Ryzen 9 3900x (not yet overclocked). RAM 32gb Corsair Vengeance (2x16) 3200mhz. 1 x Gigabyte Aorus GTX1080ti Extreme and a 1200watt PSU. 1 x 1tb SSD 3 x 240BG SSD and 4 x 2TB HDD OS Win 10 Pro 64bit. Simulators ... FS2004/P3Dv4.5/Xplane.DCS/Aeroflyfs2...MSFS to come for sure.
August 12, 20178 yr Moderator Since you'll likely be reinstalling a lot of stuff, consider GEXP3D and UTX ans an alternative to FTX Global & Vector. I have both on two similar systems and my preference is the GEXP3D UTX combo for accuracy, performance and visuals. Vic RIG#1 - I9 14900K MSI Pro z790 RTX 5070Ti 40" 4K Monitor 3840x2160
August 13, 20178 yr 2 hours ago, vgbaron said: Since you'll likely be reinstalling a lot of stuff, consider GEXP3D and UTX ans an alternative to FTX Global & Vector. I have both on two similar systems and my preference is the GEXP3D UTX combo for accuracy, performance and visuals. Vic +1 i7 3770K HT, 8GB RAM, nVidia 980GTX, Win7, P3D 3.4, FSG mesh, UTX, GEX, ST, ASA16/ASCA, NickN optimized
August 13, 20178 yr 6 hours ago, troyboy66 said: Ok sounds like P3D it is. Thanks everyone for your input. I thinki I will start working on the change ASAP. I know that a new hardware might not be neccessary, but I like new stuff...Im a sucker for it :). Are there any objections against the i7 7820X? I've read some good repports about it. Troy Several tests I've seen the i7-7700k is still king over this cpu particularly in gaming. Ryzen 7 5800x, 64gb, 7900XTX 24gb
August 13, 20178 yr 8 hours ago, troyboy66 said: Are there any objections against the i7 7820X? If I where you, I would go with a i7 that has less cores but a substantial higher base clock frequency. Like the 7700K 4.2-4.5Ghz. Half the price and most likely for P3D equally as fast, if not faster. Even more, the price difference I would definately spend on a GTX 1080i instead of a 1070 But I'm not a CPU specialist, maybe others can chime in. Location: Vleuten, The Netherlands, 17.3dme SPL 108.40 | Simulator: FS2024 System: AMD 7800X3D - Gigabyte X670 - RTX 4090 - 64GB DDR5 - 2 x 2TB SSD - 32" 1440p Display - Windows 11 Pro
August 13, 20178 yr Be quite... Keep in mind, most of post on avsim are reports of questions or problems that concern some configurations or evolutions ( each computer and sim are a strict personnal config.) Most happy simmers don't write about success. (Big majority) Avsim isn't a shot of the strict reality of the sim state, just keep a eye on avsim's informations to prevent to buy 'no-ready addon's" or to do yourself bad manipulations. I have the p3dv4 from the first hour... No ctd, no OM, ... only tracking solutions for Milviz dhc2 and gtn750 integration. with de v1, v2 and v3, only one ctd ... and as in fsx a lot of OM. Marc, a happy simmer ;-)) ... with more of 900 addon's installed.
August 13, 20178 yr 17 hours ago, SpiritFlyer said: Hi Troy, Welcome to AVSIM's major pre-occupation, "sim-wars". Most of us (these guys above) could not agree that water is wet. For us to agree that for the most part P3Dv4 is a game-changer is like a break in the law of gravity, but we do. P3Dv4 is a major event, and in my opinion, a singular victor in the sim-wars, for now. If there is a second place, it belongs to X-plane. Have fun, whatever you decide. Kind regards, Since the OP was helped greatly already... But I could not help to add one more to this "war". If there is one sim to rule them all, the winner is the one that provides to most a trouble free sim, where simmers are free of the tyranny of tweaks, of being slaves to pay the crazy taxes to the continuous upgrade of HW (and SW, LM, I speak to you). We are not all getting younger, for the 6-7 years of simming, I have spent more time and money on upgrade, reinstalling, tweakings than actual flying, perhaps I suffer from OCD, but ever since I read about "As real as it gets" I keep asking when will I have it LOL. Enjoy your new P3Dv4 sim, Mr. OP, until LM releases P3Dv5 next year, and all upgrade hell starts again Vu Pham i7-13700K 5.2 GHz OC, 64 GB RAM, RTX5090, SSD for Sim, SSD for system. MSFS2020, XP-12, DCS
August 13, 20178 yr 11 minutes ago, Anxu00 said: Enjoy your new P3Dv4 sim, Mr. OP, until LM releases P3Dv5 next year, and all upgrade hell starts again It will be a couple of years before P3Dv5, no different to the old days of MS Flight Sim or X-Plane. Simmers on the MS side are used to a static platform, that really has changed with P3D and (at the moment to a lesser extent) FSW. X-Plane users are of course used to the platform changing every couple of years. What is interesting to me are two questions that i haven't really seen answered: What will LM offer to tempt people onto P3Dv5, with the advent of 64-bit and my substantial investment on that platform; i am struggling to see a reason I would consider an upgrade?? and the second, will FSW be a continuously updated platform (like Windows 10) or will they drop it at some point for FSW 2...or probably FSW 2018. If train sim is anything to go by i would expect major number changes with fairly minor content differences. But recently they tossed that out of the park with Train Sim World a major break from the Train Sim progression. These sim wars are utterly pointless, ...DCS is the best sim!!! Ian R Tyldesley
August 13, 20178 yr At some point you're going to have to bite the bullet, whether it is now or later- simply because FSX is a dead product. It has no real future. In the long haul you'll save more money switching over the P3D vs. investing another red cent in a FSX 32 bit add-on. And in time, some future version of Windows may not even run FSX....I have every version of MS FS they ever made, and the only ones that work on Windows 10 anymore are FS9 and FSX. Mark Mark Trainer
August 13, 20178 yr Those are good points Mark. I agree with you that is better to invest for the future. I started to have problems with FSX and W10, so I grounded myself for a while till V4 showed up.
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