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Can someone please teach me to taxi?!

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I’ve flown numerous aircraft ranging from 3,000 to 650,000 lbs but I can’t accurately taxi anything in P3D! I overcontrol all the time. I’m using CHProducts pro rudders. I watch videos and the folks making them do an excellent job taxiing! How is it done? Special software, extra servos or with rudder pedals and special calibration?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I’m an old dog but I’m bound to be able to learn this trick!

Many thanks,

Don

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Hi Don,

Long time CH Products user - I have the pedals - first off I can't sit comfortably at my desk and use them - secondly - they are so much harder to taxi with than real rudder pedals in an aircraft - hence mine are unplugged and gathering dust... 

I have the CH Pro Throttle as well - and the "micro stick" under your thumb works far far far better as a rudder input... Taxi's are as smooth as silk... I've been using it for decades and LOL - no - I don't get mixed up when I get in a real aircraft...

:tongue:

 

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Regards,
Scott

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Can't  stand CH pedals

i have saitek combat pro - not real - but the best budget ones

Anyway - if you're using default P3D try setting a Null zone of 10.  Other than that I've got toe brakes set and I agree the ground physics aren't great - but use minimal input but you'll have to lead the turn in my opinion.  Sometimes I gently tap my toe brakes too to help with a correction.

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I use CH rudders and mostly have no issues. There are occasional models that are touchy but for the most part all are ok. 

Play with the sensitivity and dead zone settings in P3D - this has a major imact on over controlling.

If you are using a weather program, see if they have a setting related to ground wind - FSX and P3D are both very sensitive to wind while taxiing.

Vic

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It is generally harder to taxi with some hardware than others.  I bought a set of MFG Crosswind pedals to replace my Saitek pedals and because they have a much higher input resolution taxiing instantly became a bit easier.

If that’s not an option, you’ve already touched on one issue to be aware of, over correcting.  Unless you’re making a tight , 90 degree turn you should not normally fully deflect your rudder pedals while taxiing.  That’s a hard habit to break.

The other thing to be aware of is speed.  Because there’s no real sensation of speed when simming it’s very easy to end up going faster than you think. That makes for messy taxiing, both in turns and straightline.  A good rule of thumb in an airliner is no faster than 10kts in a 90 degree turn or close to it.  I think 20 kts is a reasonable maximum straightline, though perhaps you can get away with a bit faster on a long straight under the right conditions.  Use breakaway thrust to get going, small inputs once you’re moving.

 

 

 

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In my realsize 737–800 cockpit I have a steering tiller.

Steering is easier and more accurate done by hand.

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1 hour ago, regis9 said:

I bought a set of MFG Crosswind pedals

Where did you source them? I have not found a USA source.

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2 hours ago, wrap23 said:

I’ve flown numerous aircraft ranging from 3,000 to 650,000 lbs but I can’t accurately taxi anything in P3D! I overcontrol all the time. I’m using CHProducts pro rudders. I watch videos and the folks making them do an excellent job taxiing! How is it done? Special software, extra servos or with rudder pedals and special calibration?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I’m an old dog but I’m bound to be able to learn this trick!

Many thanks,

Don

Are you using FSUIPC? If so. check for any conflict in P3D settings. Just a thought. I have found other issues with my controls were due to duplicate settings in the sim and in addons.

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2 hours ago, wrap23 said:

I’ve flown numerous aircraft ranging from 3,000 to 650,000 lbs but I can’t accurately taxi anything in P3D! I overcontrol all the time. I’m using CHProducts pro rudders. I watch videos and the folks making them do an excellent job taxiing! How is it done? Special software, extra servos or with rudder pedals and special calibration?

 

As G. said above many large aircraft have a tiller for ground steering.  Rudder isn't used nor very effective as I understand real-world ops.  To simulate this, I use the keypad shortcuts (0 or Ins, and Enter) for taxiing a tiller-equipped aircraft.

For aircraft without a tiller I use Saitek rudder pedals.  It's not the greatest, but I can usually control it ok.  Sometimes it is tricky on takeoff with prop torque in a single though.  Or it could be the wind as was said.

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Another happy MFG Crosswind user, working as well today as they did about four years ago when I got them.

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I would second the use of a paid, registered version of FSUIPC.  In it you can change the sensitivity curve of each axis.  I also have the Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals. With FSUIPC controlling the sensitivity, I’m able to do a reasonable job of taxiing.  

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5 hours ago, fppilot said:

Where did you source them? I have not found a USA source.

I bought them direct from the manufacturer and they were shipped to me here in Canada.

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I use the proportional rocker switch on my Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS - X setup to good effect.In addition I use the differential braking keys on the number pad too.

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+1 for MFG pedals. Only thing better would be the commercial grade pedals, of which there are several, but cost is in the $1000's range. I'd love to have a set of the Brunners, but can't justify the cost, especially considering how well the MFG's work.

As ncngrr mentions..."I would second the use of a paid, registered version of FSUIPC.  In it you can change the sensitivity curve of each axis."...and I would add that you can adjust the sensitivity slope (which I am using) to change the pedal throw at the ends of the pedal, travel range. By lowering the slope of the pedal range closest to center, it makes initiating turns much smoother and eliminates that initial over-turn.

It took some time to talk myself into the MFG's, as they aren't inexpensive, but I finally got tired of fighting what you describe.

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2 hours ago, regis9 said:

I bought them direct from the manufacturer and they were shipped to me here in Canada.

Thanks for that info. where are they were located?  Not obvious!

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