April 15, 20197 yr I have both. I fly X-Plane way more than I fly P3D. VR is much better implimented in X-Plane than it is in Prepar3D. The Sim is just a platform for whatever plane you wish to fly. Some screenhots, you cannot tell the difference between the two sims. The Zibo Mod 737-800 for X-Plane 11 in VR with rain effects is jaw dropping and is a no brainer. Jude BradleyBeech Baron: Uh, Tower, verify you want me to taxi in front of the 747?ATC: Yeah, it's OK. He's not hungry. X-Plane 12 and MSFS2020 🙂 System specs: Windows 11 Pro 64-bit, Ubuntu Linux 20.04 i7-13700KF Gigabyte Z790 RTX-4060-Ti , 32GB RAM 1X 2TB M2 for X-Plane 12, 1x256GB SSD for OS. 1TB drive MSFS2020
April 15, 20197 yr 2 hours ago, t4murphy said: Get both. They both have their strengths and weaknesses. it pains me to say but I agree.. theres pros and cons to both. A year ago I would of never of tried xp11. alas ive been using XP11 (as well as p3d) 3 months and im 50 / 50 on it. for example this morning I flew the tolis 319 from EGKK-LEIB-EGKK. Whilst the tolis 319 is of the same standard as the qw 787 which in my opinion is an average addon, compared the might of the fsl 319 and pmdg birds, the appeal of xp11 on this route was i could use it with the settings on high with orbx true earth UK, coupled with uk2k EGKK and payware scenery at the other end for LEIB. With free HD mesh for the world and free hd mesh for spain it looked amazing, was smooth as silk and the only things i needed to buy for this was.. xp11 tolis 319 activesky uk2k egkk Ibiza Pilot plus orbx true earth now had i done the same flight in P3D i would of had to of bought all of the above (aerossoft ibiza instead) as well as rex, envtext,envshade, ORBX LC europe, and ultimate mesh by Pilots, So pound for pound or dollar for dollar the cost of the flight in p3d would of been im guessing some 5 times the cost. The kicker and heres the kicker is the FSL absolutely blows the tolis away alas its nearly 3 times the cost, but you get what you pay for. remember a Mcdonalds Cheese Burger vs a Five Guys., But.... xp11 looks WAY better than p3d and i would of had HUGE performance issues flying the FSL back into EGKK with true earth on, it would be a stutter fest, especially in 4k I absolutely couldnt make my mind up this morning to wether use the xp11 or p3d on the route above, its took me 30 mins to decide. Nothing is ever easy in this hobby, as you can see theres pros and cons for both . My personal opinion in short, XP11 looks good and is cheaper to run, but has crappy addon aircraft (apart from the zilbo) , however P3d has great addon aircraft but is a real pain to get up and tweak to look as good as xp 11 Edited April 15, 20197 yr by tooting
April 15, 20197 yr As a newbie it will save you many thousands of $$$ in the long run by going XP11 There are support forums if your having troubles. I tried it and found it very intuitive ZORAN
April 15, 20197 yr 2 hours ago, w6kd said: P3D comes with a 60-day money-back guarantee, so why not try it and decide for yourself? Because the standard "without any addon" P3D does not convince anybody. It is totally outdated. You need a bunch of addons to make P3D look really, really good. That is, why it is not easy to just try it as demo. Guenter Steiner -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Betatester for: A2A, LORBY, FSR-Pillow Tester --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
April 15, 20197 yr Get yourself knowledged and have both. It doesn’t cost you anything to carry that extra knowledge and experience around with you. You then have the best of both worlds.
April 15, 20197 yr 1 hour ago, guenseli said: Because the standard "without any addon" P3D does not convince anybody. It is totally outdated. You need a bunch of addons to make P3D look really, really good. That is, why it is not easy to just try it as demo. And you can get some of those addons from Flight1 with a 30-day money back guarantee! Not to mention that some of the user's FSX addons may also work in P3D. Regards Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
April 15, 20197 yr Get both - Only if you are retired and have a lot of spare time on your hands. Cheers bs AMD RYZEN 9 5900X 12 CORE CPU - ZOTAC RTX 3060Ti GPU - NZXT H510i ELITE CASE - EVO M.2 970 500GB DRIVE - 32GB XTREEM 4000 MEM - XPG GOLD 80+ 650 WATT PS - NZXT 280 HYBRID COOLER
April 16, 20197 yr I use both. Like any sim it takes a bit of time to get used to it. I can recall I tweaked fsx for months (years?) To get it just right. I think it took me a couple months to learn the ropes of XP10 and then later 11 | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
April 16, 20197 yr I use the two of them, both have their shortfalls and bonuses. I use Xplane when I need to fly the A330 in my VA or P3D for the NGX (although the Zibo 737 gets a lot of flight time.). They are both very good, but both need addons to improve the visuals and eye candy. YBCG
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April 16, 20197 yr What a funny question... It's like asking which is better... Chicken or Beef? Robin "Onward & Upward" ... To the Stars, & Beyond...
April 16, 20197 yr You don't have to decide between them, there is nothing stopping you from enjoying both. Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
April 16, 20197 yr I just switched from p3d to xplane. However both have their uses. I don't buy scenery and became fed up with the default P3d airports. The xplane ones are amazing and there are all free and regularly updated. I can also run my x5 3570k gtx970 machine with most sliders 3/4 right and still get good frame rates with no autogen popping or blurry textures. The zibo 737 with rain effects (YouTube it) are amazing and runs fine on my machine. I stopped on P3d on v3.4. LM are not in the consumer market so a lot of the things we want are not coming in quick enough. Huge lists of changes in each point release but not much to excite. There is no denying the weather, ai traffic etc are far better in P3d though. I really miss my aerosoft a320. I am rambling. My advice is buy both. Use both. Switch between them like switching between planes. Edited April 16, 20197 yr by sanh
April 16, 20197 yr 9 hours ago, sanh said: I just switched from p3d to xplane. However both have their uses. I don't buy scenery and became fed up with the default P3d airports. The xplane ones are amazing and there are all free and regularly updated. I can also run my x5 3570k gtx970 machine with most sliders 3/4 right and still get good frame rates with no autogen popping or blurry textures. The zibo 737 with rain effects (YouTube it) are amazing and runs fine on my machine. I stopped on P3d on v3.4. LM are not in the consumer market so a lot of the things we want are not coming in quick enough. Huge lists of changes in each point release but not much to excite. There is no denying the weather, ai traffic etc are far better in P3d though. I really miss my aerosoft a320. I am rambling. My advice is buy both. Use both. Switch between them like switching between planes. Same here...2500k 4ghz GTX 980. I truly use them both almost 50 50. Before 64bit p3d came out I nearly quit cause of all the OOM'S but V4 made those a moot point | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
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