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Bert Pieke

P3DV5, one month in..

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I had to check my calendar, but yes, I've had V5 for one month (only).. seems longer, somehow..

So here is one man's journey..

I bought the Professional edition, counting on the LM 14 day refund policy if it did not outperform my highly tuned V4.5. HF2 configuration.

After 48 hours, I was seriously considering returning V5 for a refund.. I saw little that was better, and lots of things that I did not like, starting with the User Interface.  One of my favorite airports, Orbx KORS also looked totally wrong and Larry Robinson's Ferries flat out did not work.  Also, P3D crashed whenever I approached KSEA..

However, after spending some quality time with Orbx Central, migrating scenery libraries, and beginning to understand the new settings, I discovered that this sim actually performed amazingly well on my aging Haswell 4770K 8GB system when not near Seatlle, and it deserved to be given another chance. 

So, what happened since then?

- LM released HF1 which fixed some of the bigger problems like the crash on approach

- Orbx started to update their scenery packs and airports so they looked right again

- I began to identify a "sweet spot" for my scenery and performance settings

- I discovered that the "Enhanced Atmospherics" option looked fabulous when Clear Skies were selected

- I disabled my Victoria+ scenery pack which was the cause of the Seattle crashes

and I generally migrated more and more Orbx scenery away from V4.5. and onto V5.

Long story short.. I really like V5 now.  It feels smoother and looks better on my system.

Larry Robinson's coastal sceneries still do not work, and I am keeping V4.5. around for local flights around Vancouver Island.

Reason for writing this post, is that I just flew a scenic flight from Pitt Meadows to Victoria, repeating an actual flight that I flew as a passenger in a C172 with a university buddy who was looking to share his flight rental expenses with two friends.  I took lots of photographs on that flight (it was in 1972, I believe) and up to now I have never experienced the feeling of "being there" quite the same way as I felt it today, in spite of flying the identical flight in FS9, FSX, P3DV4... etc in the past.

For those of you who fly tubeliners, which according to Avsim surveys is about half of our membership, this story probably does not have much relevance.. but for the other half that likes to fly GA aircraft below 10,000 feet most of the time..  all I can say is that the day that Orbx announces that Larry Robinson's scenery packs are supported in V5,  that day I will pull the plug on V4.5. and park it on my 2 TB harddrive, where I still have a copy of FSX (just in case).. :smile:

My system: 4770K@4.1, GTX 1070, 1080 32" monitor.

P3D set to unlimited fps, vsync off, and fps limit set to 29 in nvidia NCP.

 

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And.. since I always get asked this, these are my current settings:

Graphics: FXAA=off, AA=4XSSAA. Ani=8x, TexRes=2048, Vsync=off, fps=Unlimited
    LOD=High,TessFac=High,Mesh=5m,TexRes=1m, UseHighResTex,
    Scene Comp=ExtremelyDense, AutoGen=High,Veg=Normal,BLg=Dense,DynamicVeg=off
     Water Detail=Medium, no Bath, no reflections
     SpecEff=Medium
     HDR=On (0.85/0.05/0.97), DynRef=off, LandLights=on
     Shadow qual = High, Shadow Draw Dist = Low, Casting+Rec = both for Internal and External
      Enh Atmospherics=on,  Cloud Res=Medium,  Weather: Clear Skies. 

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Glad to hear your enjoying it Bert.


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Great observations Bert.  I’ve stayed in v4.5 for tubelining but have firmly landed in v5 for GA.  I’m sure over time I’ll move all of my time to v5.


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I worried about the cost of upgrading all my add-ons but the total cost was less than $40 for a lot of airports, aircraft, scenery and utilities. Much of that "free lunch" was due to the good will gesture by ORBX, who are probably thinking that their True Earth for P3d series will help them through the MSFS 2020 transition (which obviously doesn't need TE). Providing free upgrades to legacy products certainly is an incentive to buy future ORBX products.

 Despite all the grumbling, the beta implementation.of TrueSky turned out to be pretty good, when combined with Active Sky. Overall performance in P3d5 is improved over P3d4. My one remaining issue is how much messing around it took to get VOXATC to work. Maybe there will be a miracle and an official update might magically appear.

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Good report, I'm still on the bench warming it, too deep into P3DV4.5+ and XP11.4 soon 11.5+.  I just don't want any more messing with addons, fixes, at this stage.....first snows of winter perhaps! 🤣

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Good write-up, Bert.

I am flying A2A GA all the time atm, mainly with modified Orbx TrueEarth (I have been making some real watermasked ortho to go with it).

Lots of fun, and ActiveSky + Enhanced Atmospherics + skimming over the new waves far too low + better performance = a whole lot of fun.


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Nice story Bert. Are you excited about the TE Washington  announcement? One thing that I'm looking for is increased stability and higher frame rates as P3D v5 progresses. I just ordered a Titan X Pascal, so I'm very tempted to order P3D v5 again and see how much better it will be. FPS were very good with my gtx 1070 but I was Vram limited.

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Good to hear that....I did transfer all sceneries....Still waiting fro 777 and FSL products to make final saying....What I am not impressed but still testing is weather....Hooked yesterday SF to see results and with TS I don't like it at all....like flying above bowl with milk...terrible. Don't like like night flying...to dark with TS...Today again over Atlantic - but no TS and looks more realistic and with clouds by SF all around me and of course more realistic...Other than that I am impressed with performance...FPS stable vRam as well.......BTW Landing lights are killers for now to the point I can't use them at night, period....simply can't see - absolutely nothing in front of you. Hopefully few fixes are around the corner that will make it all better....👍


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I installed it today and all ORBX with it. Initial impression, performance is better of course. However, there is something about it what was off for me, I am not really sure maybe I didn't take my time on it or I used to XP for the past few months. Perhaps I would need time on it to judge, maybe when I see my favorite planes like PMDG and FSlabs there, I'd get used to it. Let's see 

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Have not looked back since the first week. There was nothing in 4.5 that hasn’t been ported to 5 that was a deal breaker for me. All my lovely A2A birds, majority of my orbx stuff etc have been great and only getting better as everything matures.


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It's ok.

I don't hate it. I don't love it. 


-Alex 

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Agreed.

However, I don't love it enough to keep it on my system.

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Thanks Bert.  I haven't made the purchase yet.  4.5 works well and I have so many airports that I am not ready to jump into the installation mode.  I appreciate your comments though.

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Ken Thompson

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2 hours ago, DJJose said:

Nice story Bert. Are you excited about the TE Washington  announcement?

Not sure... PNW performs really well, and who knows what TE Washington will do to my system..


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