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Live Weather Inaccurate / not working

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I just took off from HAAM in Ethiopia, and I was unable to access the weather options or time at all. I have had access to it earlier, so I just might have to restart the sim (its rock stabile this sim, btw - only had 1 random crash since launch). 

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1 hour ago, Jeeeno said:

If Meteoblue uses weather stations that are far away from the airport, when you are flying into that airport, you expect some kind of weather based on the Metars, but once you get there it's different. Not funny. 

Metars are updated only every 30 minutes, sometimes only hourly. What was true 37 minutes ago when the report was made, can have changed.

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1 hour ago, Farlis said:

Metars are updated only every 30 minutes, sometimes only hourly. What was true 37 minutes ago when the report was made, can have changed.

This is a bug. No justification for it. My home airport had reported skies clear 10sm vis for 3 hours, and the sim showed 3sm visibility and the altimeter setting was nearly 75 feet off.

And also, METARs are updated every hour. Not every 30 mins. Regardless, you can generally expect the METAR to almost exactly represent the weather within about 3-5 miles of the airport.

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Now it's just dead. There is no live weather at all

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Yeah. We desperately need Active sky not only for live weather, but historical too. Metroblue is not up to the task. 

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9 hours ago, NZ255 said:

It’s funny how every feature that’s not working perfectly is considered a “core feature”.

(1) Not true

(2) They made a full on video demonstrating their incredible weather engine... of course it's a "core feature"...

Love the sim, but it's still a bad bug 😞

9 minutes ago, UAL4life said:

Yeah. We desperately need Active sky not only for live weather, but historical too. Metroblue is not up to the task. 

I would like to second this motion. 

Eric 

 

 

1 hour ago, Farlis said:

Metars are updated only every 30 minutes, sometimes only hourly. What was true 37 minutes ago when the report was made, can have changed.

In FAA land METAR is only hourly unless something changes significantly enough to force a SPECI. 

The problem here is the use of Meteoblue forecast model as the weather source. Everyone and their brother in FAA or ICAO expects conditions to be per METAR, not some forecast model that may or may not be even close to what’s going on, and in my experience with this sim and living within a class D surface area, not even close to what’s out my window or reported in the METAR. In fact, METAR is the regulatory authoritative data source. FAA AC 00-45F says;

3.1.1 Aviation Routine Weather Report (METAR)
Aviation Routine Weather Report (METAR) is the primary observation code used in the U. S. to satisfy World Meteorological Organization (WMO) and International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) requirements for reporting surface meteorological data.

3.1.2 Aviation Selected Special Weather Report (SPECI)
An Aviation Selected Special Weather Report (SPECI) is an unscheduled report taken when any of the criteria given in Table 3-1 are observed during the interim period between the hourly reports. 
 

Evidence suggests they’re not taking the METAR or winds aloft balloon observations and integrating it into the sim metoblue or something. I find it disappointing considering what they could have done by amalgamating a lot of free data with the meteoblue forecast to generate the atmospherics in the sim.

 

 

4 hours ago, Alcides Segovia said:

I also don’t think METEOBLUE is actually loading winds aloft. As most of my flights I never saw anything past 10/KTS at FL350-FL390

There is a bug in the weather engine. Even though MeteoBlue is providing winds aloft worldwide, for some reason the upper winds are not being injected into the sim environment if the aircraft is positioned anywhere in the continental United States. Winds, both surface and aloft, will always be approximately 225 degrees at 3 knots.

Surface and aloft winds appear to work well in Europe. They work in Southern Mexico, but not in Northern Mexico.

This geographic location-related winds bug is not new. It has existed for a long time, and was reported dozens of times. To see that it still exists in the release version is a major disappointment.

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48 minutes ago, G-YMML1 said:

Now it's just dead. There is no live weather at all

What I noticed is that when starting a first flight there is real WX, after that the second flight clear skies.

Only a restart from the sim gives again live WX,already sent a bug report

 

André
 

Ok I actually haven't been to the meteoblue site before. When I go into their current weather for ie. Entebbe where Im flying to now, it doesn't show the baro pressure. But in sim I'm getting pressure differences, so where does the pressure in the sim come from, and what online page or insim feature do I look to to check it?

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16 hours ago, Adrian123 said:

Where for art thou Active sky? 😉

I'm not sure I see the point of this. Let Asobo have a shot at fixing this once they can breathe. It's clear there was some sort of deadline that had to be met and that's why we're here. No one can, with a straight face say, "Yeah, we thought the product was complete" when they shipped this. The answer isn't just, throw someone else at the problem. The answer is for them to fix it. The pieces are all there. It's just not accurate. I don't feel like I should have to spend $50 or more on an entirely new third-party product that may introduce all sorts of other issues into my simming experience just because the solid foundational weather system isn't currently implemented correctly.

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17 minutes ago, JRBarrett said:

This geographic location-related winds bug is not new. It has existed for a long time, and was reported dozens of times. To see that it still exists in the release version is a major disappointment.

This is nothing more than another example, of MANY, that the product had to be released when it was for some reason we will likely never know. My GUESS is that Microsoft had a contractual agreement with Asobo that had this date tied to remuneration of some sort and if they didn't get it out by that date all sorts of financial realities would come into play. Little else explains what we're experiencing. Frankly, I don't know a single person that wasn't entirely caught off-guard with this release date. All of us, pretty much, expected that, at best, this thing would target a December release date. Imagine what another four months of work would do for this. None of us would have had even a second thought about it being released then. Again, something we don't know about is at play here.

Do not get me wrong, I'm still impressed by what we see regarding the foundation here. The problem is that almost nothing about this version is complete or working fully. Navigation is broken. Graphics are spectacular but spotty, autopilot is broken, the UI is a mess, peripheral support is not right, weather isn't right, the lessons have issues, etc., etc., etc. I still have complete faith we'll get there, but not with this build. The KEY now is feedback and timing. The best thing that can happen right now is for Asobo to provide some responses and some assurances that they understand. If we have to endure this release for another.... year, say, then credibility will be entirely lost. If it's a matter of months for some serious fixes then everything might just turn out right.

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1 minute ago, Agrajag said:

This is nothing more than another example, of MANY, that the product had to be released when it was for some reason we will likely never know. My GUESS is that Microsoft had a contractual agreement with Asobo that had this date tied to remuneration of some sort and if they didn't get it out by that date all sorts of financial realities would come into play. Little else explains what we're experiencing. Do not get me wrong, I'm still impressed by what we see regarding the foundation here. The problem is that almost nothing about this version is complete or working fully. Navigation is broken. Graphics are spectacular but spotty, autopilot is broken, the UI is a mess, peripheral support is not right, weather isn't right, the lessons have issues, etc., etc., etc. I still have complete faith we'll get there, but not with this build. The KEY now is feedback and timing. The best thing that can happen right now is for Asobo to provide some responses and some assurances that they understand. If we have to endure this release for another.... year, say, then credibility will be entirely lost. If it's a matter of months for some serious fixes then everything might just turn out right.

My money is it got rushed when Halo Infinite got delayed and they still needed a flagship title for the next gen XBOX and this was the closest thing they had to release in the pipeline. But that’s just my gut feeling.

I'm getting 50-60 winds above France right now at FL390

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4 minutes ago, Peter Clark said:

My money is it got rushed when Halo Infinite got delayed and they still needed a flagship title for the next gen XBOX and this was the closest thing they had to release in the pipeline. But that’s just my gut feeling.

But it's not on the X-Box yet, and there's no release date for it. Plus the Halo delay was announced after MSFS's release date was announced.

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