Game pass subscribers don`t have to buy MSFS they can stream it to there new $299 game console.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfP3yM8qwJs

 

Edited September 9, 20205 yr by G-RFRY

2 hours ago, F737NG said:

Not even the weather depiction?! The MSFS weather engine is far superior to anything we've seen in flight simming and weather has a very large impact on flight.

I'm not a huge fan of the sim in its current state, but even I don't agree with your statement.

Winds 225/03 all the time, weather highly inaccurate.

At least in North America.

 

Edited September 9, 20205 yr by tpete61

3 hours ago, Colonel X said:

Become? It already is. Might be lacking a more complex airliner, but other than that, it works fantastic, with flexible ATC and best-in-class graphics from high altitude.

What part of that includes the FMC on the 747 and, as I just discovered, the A320neo not loading up your flightplan on resuming a saved game?

You see I was quite enjoying flying the aircraft, even thinking it wasn't as bad as people make out, then you get a stupid bug like this which shouldn't even have made it past alpha. Back to square one.

So trying hard not to be negative, but statements like that from MS as shown in the OP just do not make me feel confident anything like this will get fixed anytime soon. And yes, I have Zendesked it in the forlorn hope the problem might get looked at some time this decade.

I cant wait for this to come out on the XB Series X. I want to get the console, its a beast. Will wait months after that to see how MSFS is on it and then make the call on wether to get it on PC or XBSX.

Specs:

CPU	8x Zen 2 Cores at 3.8GHz (3.6GHz with SMT)
GPU	12 TFLOPs, 52 CUs at 1.825GHz, Custom RDNA 2
Die Size	360.45mm2
Process	TSMC 7nm Enhanced
Memory	16GB GDDR6
Memory Bandwidth	10GB at 560GB/s, 6GB at 336GB/s
Internal Storage	1TB Custom NVMe SSD
IO Throughput	2.4GB/s (Raw), 4.8GB/s (Compressed)
Expandable Storage	1TB Expansion Card
External Storage	USB 3.2 HDD Support
Optical Drive	4K UHD Blu-ray Drive
Performance Target	4K at 60fps - up to 120fps

• The Xbox Series X will come with a 1TB Custom NVMe SSD at launch - in other words, 1,000 GB.
• Console can access 2.4 GB/s of data per second - or 4.8GB/s uncompressed

4 hours ago, Elvensmith said:

And sadly this is why, despite the high hopes and general enthusiasm, many of the minor bugs and irritants which can ruin the otherwise good experience we can sometimes have on the PC may never get fixed.

I know no company is ever going to admit they botched it, released 6 months too early and charged us £60 to be ongoing beta testers (which in itself only counts if they listen to us) but some nod towards smoothing out the wrinkles would have been appreciated.

Guess you missed the September 3rd update.

Another thing I wonder is if add on developers will create things for xbox...

Best case scenario IMO is that people love the sim on xbox and start to see that they can really only expand their hangar and world on PC and then make the switch back to PC. Microsoft keeps their customer base but it forces their hand to continue towards the PC realm of things. 

Wishful thinking ....I know.

Wouldn't be surprised if the next iterations of MSFS are going to be console only. PCs are going to become legacy tech - young folks don't even know what a PC even is. 

 

32 minutes ago, Elvensmith said:

What part of that includes the FMC on the 747 and, as I just discovered, the A320neo not loading up your flightplan on resuming a saved game?

You see I was quite enjoying flying the aircraft, even thinking it wasn't as bad as people make out, then you get a stupid bug like this which shouldn't even have made it past alpha. Back to square one.

I know!!!!  I mean it's not as if they are trying to simulate flight dynamics of over 20 different machines, Attempt to incorporate real air traffic, realistic ATC, and water dynamics.  It's not like they are simulating movement of ground traffic, airport support staff.  It's not as if they are attempting to simulate organic weather systems that are supposed to act and behave like real weather, let alone go out into the internet and update your weather live.

It's not as if they are taking petabytes of mapping data and trying to convincingly render it into a realistic 3d representation of an area where you actually live, and in some cases model your exact home.

Oh wait.  They are doing that.  But the FMC doesn't retain flight plan data after loading a save flight.   0 stars.....(smh)

Hey Chock:

No one actually paid money for my so-called  "wrong date" - do you see the difference?

Edited September 9, 20205 yr by overspeed3

2 hours ago, wthomas33065 said:

I know!!!!  I mean it's not as if they are trying to simulate flight dynamics of over 20 different machines, Attempt to incorporate real air traffic, realistic ATC, and water dynamics.  It's not like they are simulating movement of ground traffic, airport support staff.  It's not as if they are attempting to simulate organic weather systems that are supposed to act and behave like real weather, let alone go out into the internet and update your weather live.

It's not as if they are taking petabytes of mapping data and trying to convincingly render it into a realistic 3d representation of an area where you actually live, and in some cases model your exact home.

Oh wait.  They are doing that.  But the FMC doesn't retain flight plan data after loading a save flight.   0 stars.....(smh)

Sarcasm is indeed the lowest form of wit.

There's not much point loading the sim with all the above if the bloody FMC not working means you can't save and return to resume a flight later. I actually want to do more than just go "Ooo" and "Aah" at the house where I live...

6 hours ago, overspeed3 said:

To all those happy and content with this PC Beta version issued by Microsoft on August 19, 2020:

Would anyone here buy a brand new car with the doughnut spare tire on, and three real tires?

If I was getting the brand new 30,000 car for 20,000 and the only thing wrong was a spare? Sure.  What you get in this sim for $60 would cost how much with the older sims to compare? Yeah it has some bugs, but its 60 bucks.  Adding scenery and weather with other sims would cost more than 60 with the sim its self plus add ons.  Could easily cost double the price of MSFS. 

10 minutes ago, Elvensmith said:

"Sarcasm is indeed the lowest form of wit...."

Actually, so as to avoid half-truths, the full quote is:

“Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, but the highest form of intelligence” ... Oscar Wilde.

MFS has endless potential, and that is indeed something to await with, at least, a modicum of patience.

Another quote reads:

"Patience is a virtue" ... William Langland; inspired by the original Latin expression "Patience is the greatest virtue."

Back to the actual topic on hand...I wonder with the new Xbox Series S and X announcements if they will do different graphical scalings for these newer more powerful systems or will it all be geared towards trying to keep it at 30fps on a 4k TV?  Also I wonder what impact Xbox Streaming will have on this...

3 hours ago, ThrottleUp said:

I cant wait for this to come out on the XB Series X. I want to get the console, its a beast. Will wait months after that to see how MSFS is on it and then make the call on wether to get it on PC or XBSX.

Specs:

CPU	8x Zen 2 Cores at 3.8GHz (3.6GHz with SMT)
GPU	12 TFLOPs, 52 CUs at 1.825GHz, Custom RDNA 2
Die Size	360.45mm2
Process	TSMC 7nm Enhanced
Memory	16GB GDDR6
Memory Bandwidth	10GB at 560GB/s, 6GB at 336GB/s
Internal Storage	1TB Custom NVMe SSD
IO Throughput	2.4GB/s (Raw), 4.8GB/s (Compressed)
Expandable Storage	1TB Expansion Card
External Storage	USB 3.2 HDD Support
Optical Drive	4K UHD Blu-ray Drive
Performance Target	4K at 60fps - up to 120fps

• The Xbox Series X will come with a 1TB Custom NVMe SSD at launch - in other words, 1,000 GB.
• Console can access 2.4 GB/s of data per second - or 4.8GB/s uncompressed

A beast!  Only To be obsolete once the 30xx series cards get released later this month...  Lol!

Speaking of sarcasm:

Gee, I thought it was called Flight Simulator:  At FL 37,000, not many man-made landmarks are visible.  Basically, eye candy is mainly for VFR flights, but that's a preference of many simmers, fine and good.  But first, I would like to see all the bugs and flight dynamics fixed in the various FS aircraft:  What exactly was the pre-Beta and Alpha testing for if not to correct all these loose ends BEFORE release.  Then perhaps I will be very impressed with all the "freebee" scenery out there... 

Edited September 9, 20205 yr by overspeed3