1 minute ago, Adrian123 said:

Recon I'm just...stupid?

Stupid is as stupid does (Sorry...could not resist!) 🙂

9 minutes ago, Adrian123 said:

I believe that they are Steve or for the most part, touch screens.

They are...but like on the Cirrus (I think)...it has a keypad that should be linking to the Garmins...but you get the dreaded "inop" when you hover over the buttons and try to type in the ICAO code for Rapid City. 🙂 🙂 

Just now, Adrian123 said:

Are you finished. You won! Or are you looking for a fight? 🙂

Okay now I’m actually confused. I was just asking questions to try to understand... not trying to be right or wrong, just trying to develop a new understanding and see from another perspective. But no worries, you aren’t obligated to answer and it’s all good! Have fun simming 🙂

I'm in the  350i now and seems everything can be done through the Touchscreen. True there is a keyboard but not quite sure what its use is. Of course it is inop. Looks like its a backup for the touchscreen perhaps? Wierd, look like it is for a FMC? May be someone smarter than me knows.

Edited September 25, 20205 yr by Adrian123

Exactly how does the ILS feature work in a GA plane equipped with a G1000/3000? Let's say you load up a flight plan into the G1000/3000 and have the AP fly the route, during the approach phase, how does a GA plane land using ILS? This is the part I am having trouble understanding. I'm so used to flying tubeliners. Is there a video demonstrating how this works? Such as a ILS/RNAV landing tutorial in GA planes equipped with G1000/3000.

15 minutes ago, captain420 said:

Exactly how does the ILS feature work in a GA plane equipped with a G1000/3000? Let's say you load up a flight plan into the G1000/3000 and have the AP fly the route, during the approach phase, how does a GA plane land using ILS? This is the part I am having trouble understanding. I'm so used to flying tubeliners. Is there a video demonstrating how this works? Such as a ILS/RNAV landing tutorial in GA planes equipped with G1000/3000.

https://www.kingschools.com/avionics-courses/garmin/g1000

6 hours ago, Adrian123 said:

Not if your going down stairs to the fridge to grab a beer! Otto takes over. 😉

I harte to admit it but my car used to have an otto and knew the way home if I consumed amber fluid when not at home.   55 years ago the car always knew the way home but they were different days.

Edited September 25, 20205 yr by harrry

8 hours ago, Chock said:

What you need to bear in mind is that lots of airports you are used to flying an airliner into, are happy to let airliners do that, but less inclined to be thrilled at slower GA aircraft clogging up their approaches by coming in at 65 knots with a bunch of airliners backed up behind them because they have to come in at twice that speed. Then there's the landing fees and ramp fees too.

Very true.  There are GA aircraft that approach and land at higher speeds, particular performance twins (310, Barons, Duke's, KA's).  I do still avoid major hub airports.  However I do occasionally fly into some sizable metro airports such as Chicago Midway; Orange County/John Wayne; San Diego; Portland (Or); San Jose; Dallas Love Field; Charlotte & Greensboro (NC); and a few others.

8 hours ago, Adrian123 said:

Besides, there are plenty very wonderful Executive airports that cater to GA/Corporate aircraft. And they are personal and user friendly.

These are what I frequent in sims. I have a ton of these as nicely done freeware airports in FSX/P3D, though some of the buildings do not emerge so to speak in P3D v4 and above.  I have looked at a number of them in MFS and find most but not all are represented fairly well.  A nice surprise, but not without disappointment.  

Smallest aeroplane I've ever seen at EGCC when I was working there, was a DA62, which didn't even land, it did a flyover along runway 23R at about 75 feet, presumably it was a training flight, probably for Ryanair, and I suspect it carried on and landed at EGGP. Actually on the deck at EGCC, parked on one of the remote stands (67 if I recall correctly), the smallest thing I've seen there was a King Air, which was probably a corporate aeroplane anyway, so only just what you'd call GA.

Smallest thing I ever actually worked on there was a Fairchild Metroliner, and even that was a charter flight, so fairly unusual. You just don't see GA aeroplanes at EGCC that often, or even at all. If they're in the NW, they either go to Barton or Liverpool or one of the other smaller fields.

3 hours ago, captain420 said:

Exactly how does the ILS feature work in a GA plane equipped with a G1000/3000? Let's say you load up a flight plan into the G1000/3000 and have the AP fly the route, during the approach phase, how does a GA plane land using ILS? This is the part I am having trouble understanding. I'm so used to flying tubeliners. Is there a video demonstrating how this works? Such as a ILS/RNAV landing tutorial in GA planes equipped with G1000/3000.

Just look up the ILS enter e.g 109.35 then when close ( down wind ) goto HDG, turn CDI to LOC 1 and Press APP when your close to capturing the LOC.. It's really easy.

Also you can wait till the green triangle is one bar above center to do your base leg and know your below the GS.

Edited September 25, 20205 yr by Nyxx

10 hours ago, captain420 said:

Does anyone know if the actual G1000/G3000 have VNAV and ILS features? I would like to use it to set up a IFR flight in the C172 just like in a Boeing 777. Can it do a full flight form start to finish with automatic VNAV climbs and descents and be able to capture localizer and glideslope for ILS landings?

Uh, yes. 

10 hours ago, captain420 said:

I haven't done much GA flying. I've been flying primarily tubeliners most of the time. With the new MSFS I have been getting more into GA flying which is a bit new for me still.

I would suggest giving hand-flying a try. Seriously. It's fun. And you will learn a lot. 

9 hours ago, Chock said:

What you need to bear in mind is that lots of airports you are used to flying an airliner into, are happy to let airliners do that, but less inclined to be thrilled at slower GA aircraft clogging up their approaches by coming in at 65 knots with a bunch of airliners backed up behind them because they have to come in at twice that speed. Then there's the landing fees and ramp fees too.

Why does everyone go to Cessna and Piper piston engines when someone says General Aviation. GA is everything that is not Scheduled, Non Scheduled, or Military. General Aviation can be anything from a Piper J3 Cub, Cessna 172, Phenom 300, Citation Longitude, Gulfstream 650, or a Boeing Business Jet. 

I operated King Airs out of major class B airports worldwide for a number of years and flew one airplane that was stationed at a class B. We operated right in between A320, E175s, B777, and even A380s. 

2 hours ago, KenG said:

Why does everyone go to Cessna and Piper piston engines when someone says General Aviation.

 

They don't, but I was replying to this particular topic, which was indeed concerning a Cessna 172 and 182 with a Garmin.

There are many different flavors of G1000 avionics in airplanes. Just because it says Garmin on the bezel does not mean it has the exact same capability in different airplanes. Thus, because you have a G1000 it has full VNAV capability is not correct. Depending on the airplane and the certification of the AFCS you may have some feature only found on airplanes with advanced automation. I.e. you will not have the advanced speed control in airplanes without an auto throttle and thus your VNAV climb capabilities may be FLC, VS, or Pitch modes only. This means it is still the pilot’s responsibility to manage the airplanes modes correctly on an RNAV departure with altitude and speed constraints. Generally, the VNAV descents are a little better, but the pilot must still manually manage things with less sophisticated automation. Move up to an airplane with a Garmin 5000 and advanced automation like the CE 700 Longitude then yes it is fully capable. At least it should be, but Asobo built it with a very basic Garmin like system that only has very basic capabilities. You will need to wait until a third party developer takes on these advanced airplanes.

The other issue is the basic G1000 in MSFS is still significantly bugged. In that what they did chose to model is not correct. Not to mention the thousands of features they chose to leave out.