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Hotfix for MSFS later today

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EDIT: Said it all once already

Edited by Ron Attwood

The World is divided into two groups. Those who say "Give me a link" and those that provide the link. WWG1WGA

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I think I found the root cause and provided a "workaround".  

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/588225-i-posted-a-fix-for-the-usb-controller-ctds/page/3/#comments

It's a long post and I won't bore you with it.

But if the cause is what I think, then the CTD will simply be a fix on how the controller profiles are read.  The system is expecting to find some button assignment xml tags and when it doesn't see them, it crashes.

The hot fix will probably be to ignore the profile if it detects the missing assignment tags.

This isn't the first time that "file integrity checks" have killed the system.  Update 1.9.5 had issues displaying content manager with certain community addons due to misconfigured manifest.json files.  Previous versions ignored the incorrectly formatted files.   Freeware devs quickly updated their manifest.json files to work around this.

I imagine this is kind of the same thing.  The system was checking the device profile pages and CTD on those not having any button assignments.   Problem is, some throttles/rudders don't have buttons, also some of us used "null" profiles for use with FSUIPC or to prevent two simultaneously plugged in devices from conflicting.

Of course it doesn't help that when you copy an existing profile and then remove all assignments, and save it, you've created the bomb that's going to blow up in your face.

Hopefully the hotfix will just ignore the errors that MSFS feels are in a profile and will simply load.

52 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Wow first hot fix ever! I'm opining bottle of champagne!

Seriously, if they do mess up new things with this hot fix, they should be part of the guiness book of world records.

Edit: I highly recommend this book by Jeffrey Richter:

https://www.amazon.com/Advanced-Windows-Jeffrey-Richter/dp/1572315482/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=programming+windows+richter&qid=1604084085&sr=8-5

Good old Microsoft book of the 90`s about Kernel programming. Multi Threading is also included, from the 90`s ;).

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1 hour ago, Will Fly For Cheese said:

Hope it's not mandatory - for those of us who don't have the CTD issue.

I suspect It will. They require everyone to be in the same version.

Cheers, Ed

Cheers, Ed

MSFS2020 Steam  // Rig: Corsair Graphite 760T Full Tower - ASUS MBoard Maximus XII Hero Z490 - CPU Intel i9-10900K - 64GB RAM - MSI RTX2080 Super 8GB - [1xNVMe M.2 1TB + 1xNVMe M.2 2TB (Samsung)] + [1xSSD 1TB + 1xSSD 2TB (Crucial)] + [1xSSD 1TB (Samsung)] + 1 HDD Seagate 2TB + 1 HDD Seagate External 4TB - Monitor LG 29UC97C UWHD Curved - PSU Corsair RM1000x // Thrustmaster FCS & MS XBOX Controllers

1 hour ago, Will Fly For Cheese said:

Hope it's not mandatory - for those of us who don't have the CTD issue.

Resistance is futile! 

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Great, looking forward to it, flying without a throttle sucks...

Arjen Nederstigt

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Intel Skylake Core i7 6700K @ 4.0GHz / Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Xtreme / Kingston 2x8GB, DDR4, 2666MHz, CL15

Microsoft Windows 10 Home 

5 minutes ago, edpatino said:

I suspect It will. They require everyone to be in the same version.

It's the 'New World Order' mate. As Odourboy said, resistance is futile.

The World is divided into two groups. Those who say "Give me a link" and those that provide the link. WWG1WGA

15 minutes ago, odourboy said:

Resistance is futile! 

Oh well, anything's better than Vogon poetry I suppose.

31 minutes ago, BigDee said:

Seriously, if they do mess up new things with this hot fix, they should be part of the guiness book of world records.

Edit: I highly recommend this book by Jeffrey Richter:

https://www.amazon.com/Advanced-Windows-Jeffrey-Richter/dp/1572315482/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=programming+windows+richter&qid=1604084085&sr=8-5

Good old Microsoft book of the 90`s about Kernel programming. Multi Threading is also included, from the 90`s ;).

I got over 90th thanks. Have been developing for windows over 20 years VB6,C, C++, VB.net, C#, WPF and etc 🙂

Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASEL

My System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSD

Put my hands on (pic/dual/given)

7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22

 

16 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

I got over 90th thanks. Have been developing for windows over 20 years VB6,C, C++, VB.net, C#, WPF and etc 🙂

Right on!

Sounds very much like we've had parallel lives. (You left out Pascal!)

I remember the day I realized: why am I using C#? What is the point? I finished my career on C++. 

I just installed Visual Studio a few days ago. I'm thinking it's time to start chipping off the rust.

Richard Chafey

 

i7-8700K @4.8GHz - 32Gb @3200  - ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero - EVGA RTX3090 - 3840x2160 Res - KBSim Gunfighter - Thrustmaster Warthog dual throttles - Crosswind V3 pedals

MSFS 2020, DCS

 

6 minutes ago, RichieFly said:

Right on!

Sounds very much like we've had parallel lives. (You left out Pascal!)

I remember the day I realized: why am I using C#? What is the point? I finished my career on C++. 

I just installed Visual Studio a few days ago. I'm thinking it's time to start chipping off the rust.

C# is an offspring of C++ and Java  LOL. Either way it's going to be quick transition!

Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASEL

My System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSD

Put my hands on (pic/dual/given)

7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22

 

So I guess its time to bring out my drones. They have been complaining in recent weeks of feeling neglected! I hope they don't take it out on me.

A weekend of drone flying beats checking the forums constantly to see whether the update to the update is out!

I guess I shouldn't complain though. I've had a good run so far. After this update was the first time I ever had a CTD, and its down to a peripheral (Lazer Tartarus).

Hopefully it will all be sorted quickly.

Now let me check just once more whether that Hot Fix/update is out......... lol!!

Stay safe, everyone!

Albert

i7-9700KF; RTX 2070 Super; Z390 Phantom Gaming 4S, 32gb G Skill 3600;
2TB 970 Evo Plus M.2 NVme; 2TB 860 EVO SSD; 1TB 860 EVO SSD; Li 205 ATX Case; Windows 10 Pro x64

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55 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

I got over 90th thanks. Have been developing for windows over 20 years VB6,C, C++, VB.net, C#, WPF and etc 🙂

Wow, you are a full time software developer and a CFI? 

i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM

3 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

 

Wow, you are a full time software developer and a CFI? 

Acquiring first skill given me sufficient income to pursue flying 🙂 Now I have mitigate both LOL

Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASEL

My System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSD

Put my hands on (pic/dual/given)

7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22

 

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