November 29, 20205 yr Wow, 3 months out and some are ready to throw it out--unreal! Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
November 29, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, Noel said: Wow, 3 months out and some are ready to throw it out--unreal! Yeah, getting a bit stale now. We want something new eh lads? The World is divided into two groups. Those who say "Give me a link" and those that provide the link. WWG1WGA
November 29, 20205 yr I'm afraid that implementing VR will be a disaster, and not just for those who intend to use it. System: I ASRock X670E | AMD 7800X3D | 64Gb DDR5 6000 | RTX 4090 | 2TB NVMe | Seasonic Vertex 1000W I LG Ultra Gear 34 UW I
November 29, 20205 yr 8 minutes ago, Ixoye said: I'm afraid that implementing VR will be a disaster, and not just for those who intend to use it. Be silent, Cassandra 😅 ! Dominique Simming since 1981 - [email protected] GHz with 16 GB of RAM and a 1080 with 8 GB VRAM running a 27" @ 2560*1440 - Windows 10 - Warthog HOTAS - MFG pedals - MSFS Standard version with Steam
November 29, 20205 yr 42 minutes ago, Noel said: Wow, 3 months out and some are ready to throw it out--unreal! It’s more broken now than it was at launch. And that’s saying something.
November 29, 20205 yr 46 minutes ago, Ron Attwood said: Yeah, getting a bit stale now. We want something new eh lads? It is a bit ironic. 'Gamers' are often tagged here as rather shallow types who are enamored by glitz which typically rapidly fades then on to the next game. Yet the 'simmer' crowd, patiently coping w/ incremental changes in P3D over years n years and now a decade later it's 'matured'. 3 months out of the most significant release in this arena ever, and some have lost patience already that it is not at least as evolved as P3D/FSX is today, already. I understand this was likely intended to be TiC, but the irony remains. Edited November 29, 20205 yr by Noel Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
November 29, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, Virtual-Chris said: It’s more broken now than it was at launch. And that’s saying something. Not here it isn't. AP now engages much less violently, which is largely a plus. I was getting far more periods of ample GPU/CPU/VRAM headroom w/ sudden onset of sub-30 frame rate prior to the last patch. The sim runs very smoothly w/ ample headroom in the main thread core to accomodate CPU-intensive add-on aircraft. Your statement will refer to a few elements of a massive project the vast majority of which continues to function well. ATC has been slightly improved and there is more to come announced there I believe I read. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
November 29, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, Noel said: It is a bit ironic. 'Gamers' are often tagged here as rather shallow types who are enamored by glitz which typically rapidly fades then on to the next game. Yet the 'simmer' crowd, patiently coping w/ incremental changes in P3D over years n years and now a decade later it's 'matured'. 3 months out of the most significant release in this arena ever, and some have lost patience already that it is not at least as evolved as P3D/FSX is today, already. General theme of this thread seems to be that things are getting incrementally worse, not the other way around. Trend is bad and that's why patience is being lost.
November 29, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, ivng said: patience is being lost. Indeed, patience is being lost by the 'sim' crowd, 3 months and a week post initial release Take a big deep breath it's VERY EARLY in a 10y platform, or so this has been hinted at, and well it should be. It clearly has the makings of something w/ major sticking power as the world is enhanced more and more over time, along w/ more technically authentic adjustments. They're working on getting it ready for the Xbox crowd is all and pay lip service to aspects less relavent to that short-term focus. Of course, this is just my conjecture to help offset the sky is falling sentiment here. Edited November 29, 20205 yr by Noel Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
November 29, 20205 yr Author 57 minutes ago, Noel said: Wow, 3 months out and some are ready to throw it out--unreal! 53 minutes ago, Ron Attwood said: Yeah, getting a bit stale now. We want something new eh lads? Strange - I am not sure where this is coming from. I am the OP and I never advocated that. Most of us are just complaining about the lack of QA on the updates. I honestly can't see a problem with talking about the issues if we think things should be better. I actually want the sim to get better and thrive, but if things go in the wrong direction (and many seem to share that sentiment), then surely we can share our thoughts about it on a forum can't we without someone trying to polarise the argument to either love it or hate it? Its all about individual expectations I suppose, and if some people are fine with where the sim has gone, early days or not, then fine - enjoy it! 👍 Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind). I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio. Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's. Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.
November 29, 20205 yr 14 minutes ago, Noel said: Not here it isn't. AP now engages much less violently, which is largely a plus. I was getting far more periods of ample GPU/CPU/VRAM headroom w/ sudden onset of sub-30 frame rate prior to the last patch. The sim runs very smoothly w/ ample headroom in the main thread core to accomodate CPU-intensive add-on aircraft. Your statement will refer to a few elements of a massive project the vast majority of which continues to function well. ATC has been slightly improved and there is more to come announced there I believe I read. You may find it is working great but many have real issues. And the release version does work better than what it is now. At least the 787 was flyable ... It looks like the focus is for 90% on visuals and the other 10% on systems and bugfixing. They should have released it 1 year later after a lot of beta testing : way less issues and perhaps a good enhanced SDK so PMDG/FsLabs could release their ac very quickly... 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
November 29, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, GSalden said: You may find it is working great but many have real issues. I understand Gerard, I am commenting only on the lack of patience here is all. Give it time. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
November 29, 20205 yr 13 minutes ago, bobcat999 said: share our thoughts I get the impression that should read 'share my thoughts'. The World is divided into two groups. Those who say "Give me a link" and those that provide the link. WWG1WGA
November 29, 20205 yr Author 4 minutes ago, Ron Attwood said: I get the impression that should read 'share my thoughts'. No Ron, I won't get into a side argument with you on grammar (or is it syntax? Go ahead on that one! 😄) I said... then surely we can share our thoughts about it on a forum can't we without someone trying to polarise the argument to either love it or hate it? By we, I meant everyone in the thread who has a point of view, ether way, not just me. I may be stupid but I am not selfish! 😁 The sentiment was that there is a lot of middle ground here, a not just 'play it or delete it'. As we have seen around the world lately, there are some agents out there that like to polarise people into the extremes (black or white - no other choice). As a wisened owl like you will know, the world isn't as simple as that. Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind). I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio. Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's. Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.
November 29, 20205 yr 14 minutes ago, Ron Attwood said: I get the impression that should read 'share my thoughts'. 34 people reacted to the OP. I think he has the right to say "our thoughts".
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