December 16, 20205 yr Working Title CJ4 v0.8.0 - OPEN BETA Welcome to the Working Title CJ4 v0.8.0 OPEN BETA; this represents our largest and most comprehensive update to date. This update includes an enormous navigational systems overhaul, making it an excellent aircraft for a full range of IFR flight activities and procedures. We have also added a number of other great features, like FADEC and a massive sound overhaul. See the full list below. While we've always said these pre v1.0 releases are beta, this one is especially so. V0.7.3 remains available for download for a more stable, but limited, experience. This update begins addressing some of the major challenges with IFR flying in MSFS2020, including flight plan management, RNAV and VNAV/LPV built completely from scratch. This update to the flight planning capabilities allow the user complete control over the flight plan, including full direct to and approach manipulation capabilities via the FMC. This release is incredibly large, and is such very much a beta release. Please check the list of outstanding issues below, and file any issues encountered on our GitHub Issues tracker. We hope you enjoy flying this release! Installation Installation is easy, simply copy the workingtitle-aircraft-cj4 folder inside the zip file to your MSFS Community folder. Important: We recommend that you fully delete the previous workingtitle-aircraft-cj4 folder before copying this release. Important Feature Change Because this release does not use the built-in flight plan manager, but instead a custom system, by default your flight plan will NOT SYNC with ATC. The sync process can be buggy and is limited by the capabilities of the sim, so we recommend leaving this off, especially if flying online or without ATC. If you do want to use in-sim ATC and want your flight plan to sync with ATC, you can activate this sync feature in the Mod Settings menu accessed via the FMC - press the IDX button, go to page 2, go into MOD SETTINGS and then click to turn on FP SYNC. In addition, because we've rebuilt the Autopilot and FMA interface from scratch, these functions no longer work correctly with the default key bindings or hardware buttons/switches. This is on our list of things to address long-term, but for now to use this version, you will have to use the mouse interface to press any autopilot related buttons (other than AP ON/OFF). For an abundance of clarity, you can use default bindings to engage/disengage the autopilot (for example a yoke button), but to enable/disable modes, you need to use the buttons on the autopilot control panel in the virtual cockpit. DEMO VIDEO: Working Title CJ4 0.8.0 Features Showcase VNAV OVERVIEW VIDEO: Working Title CJ4 0.8.0 VNAV Overview Video VNAV OVERVIEW DOCUMENT: Working Title CJ4 0.8.0 VNAV Operations v1 Installation Installation is easy, simply copy the workingtitle-aircraft-cj4 folder inside the zip file to your MSFS Community folder. Important: We recommend that you fully delete the previous workingtitle-aircraft-cj4 folder before copying this release. 🆕 Key Features Custom Flight Plan Manager Vertical Navigation (VNAV) FADEC Custom Lateral Navigation RNAV capability with LPV Improved FMA Display Sound overhaul (WIP) PFD/MFD improvements (a lot) Map improvements Many many more... Custom Flight Plan Manager Independent from MSFS flightplan Much improved procedure data, even when using the stock NavBlue data Modifiable approaches Appropriate discontinuities Direct-to to any fix on the plan at any time Correct vectors, heading-to-altitude, and intercept legs Vertical Navigation (VNAV) Full support of all CJ4 VNAV modes including VVS, VFLC, and VPATH Continuous vertical path calculation Display of vertical path snowflake Display of required vertical speed donut to meet next restriction Display of TOD on the map Overhauled altitude modes including ALTS and ALTV Ability to add custom altitude restrictions in FMC LEGS page Lateral Navigation New lateral navigation over the top of existing AP Greatly improved bank response and turn performance Supports correct discontinuity behavior Compatibility with the new Flight Plan Manager Much improved ILS APPR capture success rate RNAV Ability to fly RNAV procedures at all times Correct sensitivity scaling for the enroute (2NM), terminal (1NM), and approach phases (.3NM) Correct PFD annunciations for navigational sensitivity Full LPV approach support, including correct increasing angular sensitivity as distance to threshold decreases Full AP support of APPR and GP modes for RNAV approaches FADEC Proper flat rating of engine for consistent performance at varying field elevations and temperatures TO and CLB throttle detents with indication on MFD N1 display FADEC properly targets increasing thrust curve and N1 with altitude in CLB Full CRZ throttle range FMC Reserve fuel can now be changed Revised the format of the FLPN page to better match the real unit, especially for approaches Approach ref temp of zero can now be entered Engines Light off occurs at 12% N2 Performance adjustments to fit climb profile using FADEC PFD/MFD Complete overhaul of the PFD Flight Mode Annunciator to match the correct CJ4 mode symbology IAS hold will now automatically switch to Mach when the values are the same IAS/Mach button switch now captures current mach number Added ability to adjust BARO minimums and added minimums aural callout Added altitude capture aural alert and flashing altitude selection indicator Added FMC waypoint sequence alerting: waypoint ident and distance will flash 5 seconds before sequencing Course needles now smoothly swing to position as per the real display Fixed an issue where the upper panel knob also controlled menus in the MFD Added Radio Altimeter (visible at 2,500' AGL and less) PPOS/PLAN Map Added “NO FLIGHT PLAN” to ROSE/ARC modes when no flight plan detected Added “DISCONTINUITY” to ROSE/ARC modes when discontinuity is reached Icons updated for airports, waypoints, and intersections Added correct label font and sizing for map labels Procedures should now be drawn more accurately to how they appear in the procedure charts Temporary flight plans (modifying a route) now displays as a dashed white line New Sounds (work in progress) Engine exterior and interior run, start, stop Avionics fans Spoiler drag, Gear drag, extend, retract Cockpit wind and rain FMS, AP panel, DCP, CCP, and soft buttons Aurals (Altitude Alert, Minimums, AP disconnect, Caution/Warning, Landing Gear, Pull up, Overspeed, Sink Rate, Don't Sink) Removed TAWS System Test (To be replaced with accurate sound) Misc New camera presets (pax, lavatory etc.) Navigational items not currently implemented but scheduled for future updates Holds and procedure turns FMC INTC CRS capability VNAV Vertical Direct-To Fix Manual Point/Bearing or Point/Bearing/Distance fixes Route offsets LNAV/VNAV approaches. Currently all RNAV approaches use LPV in APPR mode due to no minimums type information in the available navdata. Going direct-to on the LEGS page does not give you an EXEC option, it will automatically execute. ⚠️ Known Issues Sync to the game flightplan (ATC/VFR Map) is very much work in progress and turned off by default. You can enable this feature in MOD SETTINGS on the FMC. Some external applications that use the GPS/Flight plan SimVars may not function correctly or as expected. Loading and saving flights can occasionally have bad results. Custom liveries can render FADEC inoperative if they ship with a panel.cfg. You must uninstall them or remove their panel.cfg from the livery folder. This is a limitation of the existing livery system. Autopilot modes cannot be triggered via keybindings or controllers and must currently be triggered in the cockpit with the mouse. Due to sim autopilot bank rate limitations, the aircraft may overshoot on certain RNP approaches with tight turns. If you encounter this, we recommend handflying the approach with the given lateral and vertical guidance. Sometimes when turning more than 90 degrees onto an approach segment, VNAV might give a NOPATH condition because it sees that you are too high. Engage FLC or VS and descend down and it should recapture the path. Very long legs may display some constant cross track deviation on the map and course needles. The plane will still track properly towards the fix. This will be addressed later in the beta. The FMS may stop sequencing your fixes while in APPR mode on an ILS. The FMS now builds turn anticipation into direct-to course projection. However, you will still encounter some overshoot beyond 90 or so degrees. VOR waypoints in the flight plan do not display an icon on the map except when active (to be fixed). If for whatever reason, you find that VNAV is not behaving as expected, try and turn it off and on again. 🎅 Have fun! 🎅 Edited December 16, 20205 yr by cwburnett 5800X3D | Radeon RX 6900XT
December 16, 20205 yr This looks incredible! Too bad I’m mid-flight already on version 0.7. Arghh! Gary i9-13900K, Asus RTX 4080, Asus Z790 Plus Wi-Fi, 32 GB Ram, Seasonic GX-1000W, LG C1 48” OLED 4K monitor, Quest 3 VR
December 16, 20205 yr This is insane. Ron Hamilton "95% is half the truth, but most of it is lies, but if you read half of what is written, you'll be okay." __ Honey Boo Boo's Mom
December 16, 20205 yr 32 minutes ago, Gilandred said: This looks incredible! Too bad I’m mid-flight already on version 0.7. Arghh! .8 is pretty neat....I'd shove that nose into a dive and land immediately lol | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
December 16, 20205 yr Finally, i can start enjoying msfs2020 Vincent Rouleau AMD Ryzen 7950X3d / 64.0GB G.SKILL Neo DDR5 6000 / Gigabyte GeForce® RTX 4080 16Gig / / Samsung C49RG9 49' /ASUS PB287QQ ‑ 27" UHD / AGAMMIX 2TB / Samsung 970 PRO 1TB / PNY SSD 1TB / Windows 11 / Gigabyte B650M Elite Motherboard
December 16, 20205 yr Just completed a short flight and she performed flawless !!! The new sounds and the FADEC are SO SO beautiful. Thank you ALL very much !!! 😁😁😁 Quote
December 16, 20205 yr Y'all, you can imagine the amount of work that has gone into this. Though I've not had much of a hand in it, I can tell you from watching my comrades who were more involved that if you take that, and triple it, you might be in the right ballpark. This thing is amazing, and congrats to @MattNischan, @cwburnett, @dga711, K20017 (whose Avsim handle I can never recall, bad me) and everyone who helped with testing and QA on getting this out the door. Be sure to give good feedback on any problems you have with the new custom flight plan system, because this will be coming to our G1000 and other avionics mods soon, too. 😄
December 16, 20205 yr I don't have the words to express my excitement, my expectations, or my gratitude to the team. I'm sure I won't get much sleep tonight. This is like a dream come true, more like Christmas arrived early this year for many of us that tend to favor the Citations. Again, thanks everyone. Regards, Ray When Pigs Fly . Ray Marshall .
December 16, 20205 yr Is everything we need for this update contained in the 0.8 zip file? No additional mods like the G1000, G3000 or Lighting or such needed? Regards, Ray When Pigs Fly . Ray Marshall .
December 16, 20205 yr The new sounds really make this come alive. So immersive and done just right. The wind sound gradually builds as you gain speed at cruise, and the push buttons sound just right, not too loud or soft. I could keep going on but you get the idea. Curt Branch
December 16, 20205 yr Author 6 minutes ago, raymar said: Is everything we need for this update contained in the 0.8 zip file? No additional mods like the G1000, G3000 or Lighting or such needed? Regards, Ray Nope, just the download folder in the link above. 5800X3D | Radeon RX 6900XT
December 16, 20205 yr Question for anyone and everyone. Is anyone working on adding the performance numbers for the CJ4 to the Little NavMap freeware program? 2nd question. Anyone working on writing a Print Flight Tutorial for the new CJ4? Videos are fine, quick and somewhat easy, but, they just don't have the staying power of the old school; Introductory Flight Tutorial. Best Regards, Ray When Pigs Fly . Ray Marshall .
December 16, 20205 yr You're on the verge of creating the best business jet sim in the land! Fantastic! [email protected] - ROG Strix Z790-E - 2X16Gb G.Skill Trident DDR5 6400 CL32 - MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X - WD SN850X 2 TB M.2 - XPG S70 Blade 2 TB M.2 - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold PSU - Liam Li 011 Dynamic Razer case - 58" Panasonic TC-58AX800U 4K - Pico 4 VR HMD - WinWing HOTAS Orion2 MAX - ProFlight Pedals - TrackIR 5 - W11 Pro (Passmark:12574, CPU:63110-Single:4785, GPU:50688)
December 16, 20205 yr Author 7 minutes ago, raymar said: Question for anyone and everyone. Is anyone working on adding the performance numbers for the CJ4 to the Little NavMap freeware program? 2nd question. Anyone working on writing a Print Flight Tutorial for the new CJ4? Videos are fine, quick and somewhat easy, but, they just don't have the staying power of the old school; Introductory Flight Tutorial. Best Regards, Ray These are both on our wish list, but aren't at the top of the priority list. There is a pdf describing vnav ops above, and there is a complete checklist in the MFD, but beyond that we don't have other documents. As for LNM, not yet, but we do have a simbrief profile for the CJ4 and that's free to use as well. 5800X3D | Radeon RX 6900XT
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