10 hours ago, DAD said:

More fluffy, less pixelated. Like them too

Less pixelated is good, but a lot more work needs to be done to Cumulus clouds, as these are not fluffy at all at the edges and have strong definition.

6 minutes ago, scotchegg said:

That's another element; I guess there's a common suspicion that any pictures we see online have been manipulated in some way.

Things like this 2006 video from Dove have not helped 😄

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYhCn0jf46U

2 hours ago, VFXSimmer said:

I do a lot of photography and in general, photography falls SHORT of the saturation in real life, especially at the low end red/orange spectrum.

That really got me thinking today! I'm wondering as well if non-RL pilots such as myself are hampered by exposure to a more limited gradation of colour, as we only ever look up in our daily lives on the ground. Pilots can also look down so might be exposed to a greater range of colours in the sky at any one time, be more familiar with 'dramatic' skies, and so not feel it so strange when they see a variety of colours in the MSFS skies. 

If that makes any sense whatsoever....😅

1 hour ago, Greazer said:

Less pixelated is good, but a lot more work needs to be done to Cumulus clouds, as these are not fluffy at all at the edges and have strong definition.

I fully agree with that sentiment.  There is a certain lack of definition often, but I wonder if they are too limited by processing demand for higher resolution cloud structures.   I have read there is to be an upgrade with clouds after DX-12 is coded for so that may be the time when this piece gets addressed more definitively.  If and when that happens it could be nothing short of deeply realistic, at least visually. 

8 minutes ago, scotchegg said:

That really got me thinking today! I'm wondering as well if non-RL pilots such as myself are hampered by exposure to a more limited gradation of colour, as we only ever look up in our daily lives on the ground. Pilots can also look down so might be exposed to a greater range of colours in the sky at any one time, be more familiar with 'dramatic' skies, and so not feel it so strange when they see a variety of colours in the MSFS skies. 

If that makes any sense whatsoever....😅

It does.  Theres actually a lot of study in the difference between our eyes and human perception and cameras/photography.  We always forget that our visual system is NOT a camera.  Sure, our retinas convert photons into electro-chemical signals, but our brains combine a lot of simultaneous sensory information to create a narrative of what we "see".  This has all been honed over millions of years of evolution so that we can survive in a hostile world.  That is why when you go outside at dusk and see tons of vivid detail but put up a camera to shoot it - you are often disappointed in the captured featureless images.  Our brains have the amazing ability to adapt to a wide range of exposure and understand "color" in all sorts of lighting situations (blue vs yellow dress discussion anyone? 😉 )

To the degree we rely only on photographs to understand the world, we are missing out on a lot of information that'd you'ld glean if you saw things in person.

Heres an example from a flight a took a few weeks ago.  It looks red here - I promise I have done nothing to the image straight off the iphone.  But to my eye looking out the window - this was blood red - super saturated - way more so than this image.

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2 hours ago, VFXSimmer said:

Heres an example from a flight a took a few weeks ago.  It looks red here - I promise I have done nothing to the image straight off the iphone.  But to my eye looking out the window - this was blood red - super saturated - way more so than this image.

Is this image taken in RAW format? If not then it's not coming directly off the sensor. Meaning it is pre-processed in some form or another just like JPEG's usually have sharpness, and saturation applied automatically before it is saved.

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5 minutes ago, captain420 said:

Is this image taken in RAW format? If not then it's not coming directly off the sensor. Meaning it is pre-processed in some form or another just like JPEG's usually have sharpness, and saturation applied automatically before it is saved.

Yes I realize that .. just captured this as a JPEG on the iphone as I mentioned.

But even with a RAW capture on a Cannon-1D you will still not capture the full color gamut that your eye is capable of seeing and more importantly that your brain is capable of perceiving.  Thats more the point I am trying to make.  The multitude of "optical illusions" you can find online, especially in color perception, are great examples of how our visual system is not a straight linear mapping of optical neuron response.  The brain does a lot of gymnastics under the hood to help us better understand what we are seeing when we have to make rapid decisions.  Much of it is context based.

This one's my favorite.  (The pixels in region "A" are identical to "B"). 

 

Same types of process allow us to perceive really rich color where there really isnt any.  Something a camera wont.

Like this...  If you sample the values in photoshop, there aren't any pixels in here where the red channel is greater than the green or blue.

 

.. ok I've gone a bit off topic.. but Love this stuff 😉 

 

 

12 hours ago, Gerwil said:

Haha, wanted to ask: How did you get trees without leaves in the sim... Oh wait, its a real photo. 🙂

Wouldn't it be great if the sim could have trees that look like they don't have leaves. Who knows, maybe someday.

33 minutes ago, MikeT707 said:

Wouldn't it be great if the sim could have trees that look like they don't have leaves. Who knows, maybe someday.

MS / Asobo are working on it.  Seasons after the DX12 update I think.  

It says 'started' and '2021' on their most recent list.  I was surprised at this.

Have lenticular clouds made it to the sim yet, indicating wave? If they have, I’ve yet to see them. Be a welcome addition, especially if gliders are to feature prominently. 

These are the clouds that I am waiting for .

 

xEnviro clouds look better in some categories and also in their color.

5 minutes ago, filou said:

xEnviro clouds look better in some categories and also in their color.

Hell NO!