April 10, 20215 yr We all know ASOBO has much fish to fry, and I applaud them for a great response to the community, but I at least figured that when this ground breaking sim came out in 2020, they should have known we have not been positioning and holding since 2010. I get all the frustration with the ATC and I dont see it on the short list any time soon... but Cmon at least understand the entire world "lines up and waits" at least if your not going to stop the continue as planned, which I as a real pilot have NEVER HEARD, please get this error fixed. Pilot2Atc is a great option.
April 10, 20215 yr You know, I read this and I have to also respond. I try to place myself into the role of the programmer, and one day your boss walks up to you and says 'your part of the ATC team, start with a list of ATC commands'. Now one would think that you can make one phone call to any FBO, ATC center, local pilots association, ect... ect... literally one phone call. But no, you do something else and who knows what that even is. I find as I get older I get more and more bothered by some basic logic flow of things. CPU: Core i5-6600K 4 core (3.5GHz) - overclock to 4.3 | RAM: (1066 MHz) 16GB MOBO: ASUS Z170 Pro | GeForce GTX 1070 8GB | MONITOR: 2560 X 1440 2K
April 10, 20215 yr No one would ever say "your part of the ATC team" But they might say "you're part of the ATC team" 😉
April 10, 20215 yr I've never used default ATC. It has so many deficiencies and a robotic sound. I just fly without ATC
April 10, 20215 yr 3 hours ago, sanh said: I've never used default ATC. It has so many deficiencies and a robotic sound. I just fly without ATC Try playing a LiveATC.net stream in the background, if there's coverage in the area of the World you are flying in. I also use the payware FS-ATC-Chatter by Stick and Rudder Studios. It sounds realistic because it is! AMD Ryzen 5800X3D; MSI RTX 3080 Ti ; 32GB Corsair 3200 MHz; ASUS VG35VQ 35" (3440 x 1440) Fulcrum One yoke; Thrustmaster TCA Captain Pack Airbus edition; MFG Crosswind rudder pedals; miniCockpit FCU; CPFlight MCP 737; Logitech FIP x3; TrackIR MSFS; Fenix A320; A2A PA-24; HPG H145; PMDG 737-600; AIG; RealTraffic; PSXTraffic; FSiPanel; REX AccuSeason Adv; FSDT GSX Pro; FS2Crew RAAS Pro; FS-ATC Chatter
April 10, 20215 yr 8 hours ago, joe cooper said: We all know ASOBO has much fish to fry, and I applaud them for a great response to the community, but I at least figured that when this ground breaking sim came out in 2020, they should have known we have not been positioning and holding since 2010. I get all the frustration with the ATC and I dont see it on the short list any time soon... but Cmon at least understand the entire world "lines up and waits" at least if your not going to stop the continue as planned, which I as a real pilot have NEVER HEARD, please get this error fixed. Pilot2Atc is a great option. I have used PF3 for years. Worked great with P3D and now with MSFS 2020. ATC that makes sense. Never fly without it.
April 10, 20215 yr 8 hours ago, joe cooper said: We all know ASOBO has much fish to fry, and I applaud them for a great response to the community, but I at least figured that when this ground breaking sim came out in 2020, they should have known we have not been positioning and holding since 2010. I get all the frustration with the ATC and I dont see it on the short list any time soon... but Cmon at least understand the entire world "lines up and waits" at least if your not going to stop the continue as planned, which I as a real pilot have NEVER HEARD, please get this error fixed. Pilot2Atc is a great option. I use P2ATC as well, but the difference between you and I is that because I use P2ATC, I do not care much about the default ATC. If they improve it, great, but it won't affect my experience. The default is all right for what it is, a skeleton system designed to very roughly reproduce ATC. Rhett 7800X3D ♣ 96 GB G.Skill Flare ♣ Gigabyte 4090 ♣ Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
April 10, 20215 yr The problem I have with things like P2ATC is that it completely ignores the world of aircraft around you. You are sandboxed into a one man show as far as ATC is concerned. James
April 10, 20215 yr 5 hours ago, andyjohnston.net said: No one would ever say "your part of the ATC team" But they might say "you're part of the ATC team" 😉 With the hundreds(?) of grammatical errors inflicted upon us each and every day, you pick up on this. I wonder why. Having said that, and there is no slur intended here, there is a world of difference between your and you're. I admit to being "old school" and quite unconvinced about the ever-rising "necessity" of desecrating English as she is spoke, and the increasing proliferation of the use of acronyms. I also have to admit that I do not really enjoy having to "google" acronyms in order to understand a basic sentence in my native tongue. Not really a relevant part of this topic, but just felt I had to add it. Apologies to all who feel offended. Tony Tony Chilcott. My System. Motherboard. ASRock Taichi X570 CPU Ryzen 9 3900x (not yet overclocked). RAM 32gb Corsair Vengeance (2x16) 3200mhz. 1 x Gigabyte Aorus GTX1080ti Extreme and a 1200watt PSU. 1 x 1tb SSD 3 x 240BG SSD and 4 x 2TB HDD OS Win 10 Pro 64bit. Simulators ... FS2004/P3Dv4.5/Xplane.DCS/Aeroflyfs2...MSFS to come for sure.
April 10, 20215 yr Well you've tolerated a mediocre ATC in FSX, the numerous incarnations of P3D, and worst of all X-Plane. What makes you think things would change? Particularly since most people have, over the last many years, gravitated to 3rd party solutions. Nowhere did I see ASOBO or MS or anyone else promise the ATC would be anything but a general port from FSX. For my own purposes I find it adequate but over the course of all three versions noted above I've purchased 3rd party solutions. Everything from P2ATC to PF3 to public domain and payware solutions for X-Plane. Get over it because it is what it is. Ryzen 7 5800x, 64gb, 7900XTX 24gb
April 10, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, Lenny777 said: Nowhere did I see ASOBO or MS or anyone else promise the ATC would be anything but a general port from FSX. Lenny777, This cannot be correct, as everybody know that MSFS is new from the ground up and has been touted as such for a long time now. Tongue in cheek, obviously. Tony Tony Chilcott. My System. Motherboard. ASRock Taichi X570 CPU Ryzen 9 3900x (not yet overclocked). RAM 32gb Corsair Vengeance (2x16) 3200mhz. 1 x Gigabyte Aorus GTX1080ti Extreme and a 1200watt PSU. 1 x 1tb SSD 3 x 240BG SSD and 4 x 2TB HDD OS Win 10 Pro 64bit. Simulators ... FS2004/P3Dv4.5/Xplane.DCS/Aeroflyfs2...MSFS to come for sure.
April 11, 20215 yr 2 hours ago, Lenny777 said: Nowhere did I see ASOBO or MS or anyone else promise the ATC would be anything but a general port from FSX. You mean like they promised with the New 1K point Flight Model but still gave us the general FSX Port? Edited April 11, 20215 yr by Kilo60 Chris Camp
April 11, 20215 yr 2 hours ago, Lenny777 said: Well you've tolerated a mediocre ATC in FSX, the numerous incarnations of P3D, and worst of all X-Plane. What makes you think things would change? Particularly since most people have, over the last many years, gravitated to 3rd party solutions. Nowhere did I see ASOBO or MS or anyone else promise the ATC would be anything but a general port from FSX. For my own purposes I find it adequate but over the course of all three versions noted above I've purchased 3rd party solutions. Everything from P2ATC to PF3 to public domain and payware solutions for X-Plane. Get over it because it is what it is. Best advice! 10/10 /END THREAD Edited April 11, 20215 yr by blueshark747 Asus Maximus X Hero Z370/ Windows 10 MSI Gaming X 1080Ti (2100 mhz OC Watercooled) 8700k (4.7ghz OC Watercooled) 32GB DDR4 3000 Ram 500GB SAMSUNG 860 EVO SERIES SSD M.2
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