C-152 with mod is pretty good, but Just Flight Arrow III is completely superior and definitely worth buying if you want the best GA experience this game has to offer at the moment.

Edited April 14, 20215 yr by Ixoye

Study level is just an interpretation of an interpretation.  The new modern model may be a bit twitchy because it has more resolution.

In time it can be smoothed out. 

bs

1 hour ago, Ixoye said:

C-152 with mod is pretty good, but Just Flight Arrow III is completely superior and definitely worth buying if you want the best GA experience this game has to offer at the moment.

Since i got the JF Arrow, I haven't flown anything else. 

I fly almost none of the Premium planes.  The Longitude is the exception and someday, hopefully with help from WT, will be amazing.

8 hours ago, jfri said:

But I will not continue using Game Pass so when purchasing it there is no good reason to buy a version above standard if the extra planes are no good.

I bought the Standard version and added the Arrow, M20 Mooney, and Piaggio P149.

No need for the De Luxe version IMHO..

Ryan,

Are you including the modded ones or is it just the basic default ones you leave alone.  I have to say that I am only flying the modded ones and have yet to buy a payware aircraft or scenery as yet for MSFS. 

I have however, bought 3 Xplane 11 aircraft including the amazing Phenom300 from Aerobask, in the last three months.  I also bought xenviro which seems to be much better than the UXWP product, albeit very much more expensive.

I am also downloading that aircraft you gave me a link to.  I tried to register and it told me that my email address was already registered. So I tried to log in and it told me the system could not find my email address.  I am into it, probably as a guest and am downloading it as we speak.  Looks amazing mate.

Tony 

13 hours ago, jfri said:

I think I have heard that. At least they are not as good as payware plane right ? I am thinking about all versions. For now I have the standard version through Game Pass for PC. But I will not continue using Game Pass so when purchasing it there is no good reason to buy a version above standard if the extra planes are no good.
Not directly related to good or bad but I think still important at least for me. In the standard version most planes are glass cockpit which I don't like. First I have the impression that they hit performance more than analog gauges. Also a little bit difficult to read at least in VR which I use now.
How are the planes in deluxe and premium deluxe in this regard. Which are analog types ?

Are you new to MSFS2020?

The Steam Gauge 172, the Cirrus, the TBM and the Longitude are the pick of the deluxe/premium aircraft.  I do not fly any of them much, but then again the price per aircraft is pretty nominal compared to something like the CRJ or JF Arrow.

None of the airliners are particularly great.

Personally I fly the Jabiru a lot for local stuff (it is vastly better with the most recent patch), the Carenado Mooney for longer flights on autopilot at 5 to 10,000 feet and the Fiat G91 cold war jet for longer flights when I want to do some low level scud running. 

I have not got around to picking up the P149 or the JF Arrow yet so cannot comment on those personally other than to say they have very good reviews which is impressive considering how nit picky and narky the flight sim community tends to be 😄

 

 

 

Edited April 14, 20215 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick

14 hours ago, jfri said:

I think I have heard that. At least they are not as good as payware plane right ?

They are not bad in my opinion. A bug here and there and many (non-essential) inoperative buttons, but usable and enjoyable overall.

Surely 30 planes in a 60 $ flight simulator which includes lifetime free streaming of photogrammetry data and live weather (just to mention a couple of things that represent an actual cost for MS) CANNOT BE as good as a single payware plane sold for 50 $.

Besides, there are free mods, some of which are very good (i.e. FBW A32NX).

I use the modded versions of the Longitude, G36 and 172. They're much more accurate in terms of flight model and performance compared to the default versions. There are also mods fixing the G1000 and G3000 avionics.

The mods are available via the official forum.

 

 

9 hours ago, himmelhorse said:

Ryan,

Are you including the modded ones or is it just the basic default ones you leave alone.  I have to say that I am only flying the modded ones and have yet to buy a payware aircraft or scenery as yet for MSFS. 

 

No I just mean the default planes...no mods etc.  I have all the mods available but the only noteworthy ones are of course the WT CJ4 and perhaps the WT G300.  Was using the Rob Young Bonanza but not sure if there's been any more work done.  It was a really nice mod initially...but I think he stopped work after Asobo made a bunch of changes.  Perhaps if his health allows, he'll finish the DA62.

9 hours ago, Bert Pieke said:

 

No need for the De Luxe version IMHO..

I agree....if I would have known the Premium planes would be premium trash I wouldn't have purchased.  Typically, DLC is nicer than the standard tier.... at least in games/software I'm used to.

Edited April 14, 20215 yr by ryanbatcund

4 hours ago, MrFuzzy said:

They are not bad in my opinion. 

This is also my take on the matter. I find the Xcub and the 172, the default aircraft I have flown the most, enjoyable and convincing as is. The only thing is that the autopilot doesn't do the RNAV. If you like hand flying like I do, they are not bad at all to wait for something better. 

The turboprops  unfortunately suffer from the FSX legacy.

Standard version here, that was the right decision to make, I reckon.

Edited April 14, 20215 yr by Dominique_K

5 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

Are you new to MSFS2020?

I got it on Game Pass as soon as it was released and have since then tried it out. But not in a deeper way since I got no payware planes. During the last month I have tried out it in VR which means new results to consider

17 hours ago, jfri said:

Is that a default plane ? If so in which version and is analog ?

Yes default, all versions, glass cockpit (G3000).