1 hour ago, EGLD said:

I was part of the alpha/beta testing of MSFS, so I got exactly what I was expecting as well

but the uncritical exclusive previews by streamers were, IMO of course, in stark contrast to how their views started to align more with their viewers who were not as willing to overlook it's shortcomings in the early days after release once all the money had been spent

I love MSFS btw and very positive about it's future, I'm just pointing out how these streamer previews of products ahead of the rest of us being deemed worthy of being able to purchase them are not as impartial as people would have you believe

they have to be positive of what they review else they dont get any monger the stuff to review.....

there are a few exceptions tho.

Hopefully the De Havilland Comet.

49 minutes ago, HPG said:

Hopefully the De Havilland Comet.

Will it come apart in midair like the original? 

1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

Will it come apart in midair like the original? 

They'd probably model the one with round windows. In that case, you'll have to pay full price for the product every time you need to service the engines because they're mounted too deep inside the wings for your virtual airline mechanic to service them.

Can't be doing with all this 'I could tell you about it but then I'd have to kill you' rubbish. If they have something interesting worth mentioning, either say what it is, or don't. Jeez, some of these people really need to get over themselves; it's a goddam toy aeroplane, not the plans for Operation Overlord. This kind of nonsense actually makes me less likely to buy something just because they are being annoying tools about it.

Edited July 10, 20214 yr by Chock

7 minutes ago, Chock said:

Can't be doing with all this 'I could tell you about it but then I'd have to kill you' rubbish. If they have something interesting worth mentioning, either say what it is, or don't. Jeez, some of these people really need to get over themselves; it's a goddam toy aeroplane, not the plans for Operation Overlord. This kind of nonsense actually makes me less likely to buy something just because they are being annoying tools about it.

LOL.... That's funny. And true. 

2 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

Will it come apart in midair like the original? 

If it's true study level it will 😆

54 minutes ago, Chock said:

Can't be doing with all this 'I could tell you about it but then I'd have to kill you' rubbish. If they have something interesting worth mentioning, either say what it is, or don't. Jeez, some of these people really need to get over themselves; it's a goddam toy aeroplane, not the plans for Operation Overlord. This kind of nonsense actually makes me less likely to buy something just because they are being annoying tools about it.

I take it by this (I've been away) that we're now 7 pages in and still haven't a clue what it is...... ?

 

Since what I'd class as "Study Level" models are pretty few and far between I'm going to assume this is a load of hype & hot air until it's actually out and reviewed. Got excited by stuff before only to find it's nowhere near as good as advertised.....

 

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6 hours ago, Chock said:

Can't be doing with all this 'I could tell you about it but then I'd have to kill you' rubbish. If they have something interesting worth mentioning, either say what it is, or don't. Jeez, some of these people really need to get over themselves; it's a goddam toy aeroplane, not the plans for Operation Overlord. This kind of nonsense actually makes me less likely to buy something just because they are being annoying tools about it.

This . 

so much this 😄

Avsim forums need a new policy: dev. announcements are only allowed if and when an actual addon that is being developled has materialized in the form of proof like screenshots. 

Otherwise it's just hot air. 

At any rate, given the pace of development, many avsimmers will be "nearer to thee my Lord" by the time this is released, whatever "this" is (probably another rust bucket). 

8 hours ago, Chock said:

"... Jeez, some of these people really need to get over themselves; it's a goddam toy aeroplane, not the plans for Operation Overlord. This kind of nonsense actually makes me less likely to buy something just because they are being annoying tools about it."

It's really quite simple: These developers realize that, simply by using the expression "study-level" to describe a [prospective] aircraft release, they can engender almost hysterical & frenzied interest, warranted or not, that will potentially lead to vastly higher sales. Witness the hyperbolic adulation and cult-like fawning that accompanied the recently released, simulation of a vintage-era aircraft whose systems are accurately modeled.

Even though respected developers such as A2A & PMDG have been around for quite some time (long before MSFS), and though I have been flight-simming forever-and-a-day, I have never before seen, as I've otherwise seen since MSFS entered the scene, this kind of hyped frenzy in response to the release of a well-modeled (systems) aircraft and even in response simply to the mention of the possibility of another 'sometime down the road'.

The over-the-top, cult-like adulation, devotion & fawning displayed in recent threads concerning one such particular, recent release is a testament to the correctness of these developers' thinking.

Hummm ? wonder what is more hype this new project or the promised "promise is one of the worst  words ever used in selling something or making someone happy and usually never accurate or achieved  " performance improvement on the 27th by Asobo. Promises and hype. Goddam if I know and I hate swearing.

Edited July 11, 20214 yr by jbdbow1970

33 minutes ago, RustyFlyer said:

I have never before seen, as I've otherwise seen since MSFS entered the scene, this kind of hyped frenzy in response to the release of a well-modeled (systems) aircraft

You obviously never visited the FSLabs forums where this particular thread ran 193 pages:

https://forums.flightsimlabs.com/index.php?/topic/24604-sharklet-hype/

1 hour ago, RustyFlyer said:

It's really quite simple: These developers realize that, simply by using the expression "study-level" to describe a [prospective] aircraft release, they can engender almost hysterical & frenzied interest, warranted or not, that will potentially lead to vastly higher sales.

That would possibly be the case if a developer, or some other project-related person writing on the matter, actually said what it was they were making or testing. But in this case we have what amounts to a press release which essentially says: 'Attention everybody, something is going to happen, but we can't say what, or by whom, or say when and why it is going to occur, nor where.'. Doing this, is almost like a lesson in how not to make an announcement, nor to generate any genuine interest.

Back when I was a writer for newspapers, there was a golden rule for reporting news which any decent writer would follow, and it was engendered in the opening four lines of this little poem by Rudyard Kipling, who was himself a writer for several newspapers and clearly knew how to do the job of reporting things. Whenever I was training PR writers, I would quote this to them as the essence of what a report or announcement should include:

I keep six honest serving-men
They taught me all I knew;
Their names are What and Why and When
And How and Where and Who.

I send them over land and sea,
I send them east and west;
But after they have worked for me,
I give them all a rest.

I let them rest from nine till five,
For I am busy then,
As well as breakfast, lunch, and tea,
For they are hungry men.

But different folk have different views;
I know a person small—
She keeps ten million serving-men,
Who get no rest at all!

She sends 'em abroad on her own affairs,
From the second she opens her eyes—
One million Hows, two million Wheres,
And seven million Whys!”

If it were the case that some or even all of the 'six Ws' as they are often erroneously referred to, were embargoed for a genuine reason, then there are other ways to generate interest which can be fun and informative in a speculative way, for example, in this case you might say something like: 'There's an aeroplane on the way for MSFS which will be very detailed and realistic; the real thing was first flown near Christmas-time, and many hundreds of them were constructed, but it never had an official prototype. The first person to correctly guess which aeroplane it is, from this information, will be invited to the beta.' Or something along those lines.

That's the way to generate a buzz and some fun speculation among people. And ten points for anyone who can guess the plane I was referring to there in that example, just for a bit of fun. Not much info to go off, but I bet you someone gets it.

 

Edited July 11, 20214 yr by Chock