8 minutes ago, HighTowers said:

Zero stutters here. Silky smooth. Locked at 30fps.   But I get very long pauses of not responding for at least a full minute. Then comes back to life.  Cant figure that out. Quite annoying. Played with all kinds of settings , closing any extra programs, to no avail. 

could be servers are slow now, too many people at same time.

sounds like downloading scenery, live traffic? etc

it is not wise to come to conclusions too soon, wait until the download wave is over, a few days , i guess.

40 minutes ago, iFlySimX said:

Here is a video: 

 

There is nothing to see here. Once you're up in the air and see terrains, that's where you notice.

Edited July 27, 20214 yr by BijanStudio

12 minutes ago, BijanStudio said:

Let's say if you get 70 FPS, you lose 5. Which is still plenty to spare.

 

 

thats great to know thank you. It sounds like its stops the pop ups from being seen also. win win.

Edited July 27, 20214 yr by Nyxx

33 minutes ago, BijanStudio said:

But we get extended tree LOD and faster performance and increased FPS. 🙂

I don't have the update yet, but this re-draw every time the head moves sounds awful.  I use TrackIR and scan often when in the traffic pattern - a redraw every head move will be bad and immersion breaking!

15 minutes ago, HighTowers said:

Zero stutters here. Silky smooth. Locked at 30fps.   But I get very long pauses of not responding for at least a full minute. Then comes back to life.  Cant figure that out. Quite annoying. Played with all kinds of settings , closing any extra programs, to no avail. 

Probably server issues.

5 minutes ago, MikeyOnTheFlightDeck said:

Not happy about the pop in compromise. I agree I wonder if us PC users are having to kowtow for the sake of Xbox users. Hmmm. 

i think you may be right

1 minute ago, Dazkent said:

i think you may be right

Yes he's 100% right....such a shame. It's because they are going to make SO much from from Xbox...

I have still yet to see these pop ins from an in cockpit video where someone is panning normally. 

13 minutes ago, SlowFlyer said:

I'm almost finished downloading SU5. I would will be very unhappy if I notice this when I start up MSFS.

I didn't have any issues or complaints with MSFS with any stuttering, LOD distance, or FPS. I don't think i needed any performance increase especially at the expense of this "feature".

I even stated in another post how happy I was with the visual qualities of MSFS with me not no noticing any real pop ups, etc, and I was happy with my pc ability to MSFS on high. I was not greedy; I didn't need ultra. I guess extra FPS would be great, but what good is a few more FPS if other things are "right in my face"?  

Plus I thought the extra smoothness and any FPS increase would be from better "coding" or whatever those software wizards do and not from this "shortcut". Wasn't this down in FSX where people complained about looking at a cloud or a building, looking away, then back and it's gone? Might kill immersion a bit. 

Heck, we all could have had better performance by lowering our settings. The difference is: we would have the option of what we wanted to lower to get the better performance or deal with lower performance but have better visual qualities.

This is a step backwards. So, if I am reading this correctly, even if I buy a 4000 video card next year, I might notice this re-drawing if I look out the side window because a 4000 or a 8000 series video card will not fix this "feature"?  

Don't flame me, but I have to BET this to be to help the Xbox run this software. This is to benefit the Xbox users over the PC users, imho. Well, then again, with out the Xbox-ers maybe we don't get a pc version.

I completely agree with you.  I didn't like the limited tree LOD draw distance, but apart from this I had good performance on Ultra settings.  Imagine all the popping of scenery while in the traffic pattern and scanning side/forwards often - trees drawn further out but the scenery doing a permanent re-draw?  Sounds like a huge step backwards - surely this has been done to keep an XBOX 4K running smooth?

In the MS video they said the tree lod problem was fixed but DID NOT say anything about scenery re-draws!

What if you look right left with fixed camera view then, without panning, will it still stutters and pop-ins?

5 minutes ago, BijanStudio said:

There is nothing to see here. Once you're up in the air and see terrains, that where you notice.

Could it be that your mod dramatically increases the popping in? I will need to check further, but on my first run with all addons disabled, I did see only little popping in (scenic flight around Naples), then I activated some modes including yours and started off Tromso, the popping was unbearable. Some mountains even had trees on them but when loading in, all the trees but some disappeared. Furthermore, it seems that with your mod, there is a distinct line in front of the plane where the colour of the trees change. Could it be that somehow your trees are only loaded closer to the aircraft and further out, it uses the MSFS default trees (and colours)?

No joy like this, hope it is a bandwith issue. I am off "testing" for today, no nerves to see this enormous popping when panning around. Simply ridiculous...

Ah, one thing that is also strange: if I activate the dev mode, it reads 0.0ms for my GPU and of course I am CPU limited all the way like this. Something is wrong here...

Just now, Slides said:

I have still yet to see these pop ins from an in cockpit video where someone is panning normally. 

Looking left/right/forwards often is normal when flying, especially in the traffic pattern.  The videos showing this re-draw look really bad.

They are not longer rendering what you don't see to boost fps and lower vram and ram usage. This is why panning really quickly will cause your FPS to go down by as much as 50% while panning. This done on purpose as per Asobo. 

Just now, MrBitstFlyer said:

Looking left/right/forwards often is normal when flying, especially in the traffic pattern.  The videos showing this re-draw look really bad.

I know panning is normal. What videos? I haven't seen any yet.

1 minute ago, Slides said:

I know panning is normal. What videos? I haven't seen any yet.