5 minutes ago, Sesquashtoo said:

I sure can...and will and do, lol.  No other flight sim on this planet, can touch nVidia WaterWorks2 at Ultra in P3D v5.2HF2.  None...for wave/water motion, plane interaction physics.  None... for looks, for realism. None...so until MSFS get in gear with water bodies, and the physics between your plane, boat, whatever...and the water (including effects) I can most certainly say for myself, that there is no barrier to not still fire up P3D, even for only water/plane Amphibian operations.  Nothing comes close to P3D for this...and that includes MSFS SU5HF2!

From your post, I get the impression that most of your flights end up in the water.

7 minutes ago, Sesquashtoo said:

I sure can...and will and do, lol.  No other flight sim on this planet, can touch nVidia WaterWorks2 at Ultra in P3D v5.2HF2.  None...for wave/water motion, plane interaction physics.  None... for looks, for realism. None...so until MSFS get in gear with water bodies, and the physics between your plane, boat, whatever...and the water (including effects) I can most certainly say for myself, that there is no barrier to not still fire up P3D, even for only water/plane Amphibian operations.  Nothing comes close to P3D for this...and that includes MSFS SU5HF2!

honestly, isn't the Water mask in MSFS not Waaaaays better than in P3D ? 

1 minute ago, David Mills said:

From your post, I get the impression that most of your flights end up in the water.

?????   I fly (mostly) with G.A.,  Amphibians...that the flight either starts from a dock,  or from land, to a water landing on an interior lake to simulate a Fly In, to such as a cottage property.  Bush piloting, and I also have for years, had an entire session whereby I was operating a 65 foot yacht ...so water, the look and realism of it in interaction with whatever I am operating is very important to me.  P3D on nVidia WaterWorks2  is the best water R.W. representation currently out there. 

I call it the "Transition Blues"  😥 Happened to me with FS2002 to FS2004,  From FS2004 to P3D, and now from P3D to MSFS.  I have hard drives full off add-ons but I don't regret "the investment".  Heck, I enjoyed each and every platform and helped out fellow developers in the process.  For me, that's part of the hobby... the journey.

Yea, I have all the past versions still loaded saying to myself I'm saving them for a nostalgic flight and squeeze every last penny out of my add-ons.  Haven't taken the flight yet since the release of MSFS, ha!

16 minutes ago, RTK1972 said:

honestly, isn't the Water mask in MSFS not Waaaaays better than in P3D ? 

Gawd NO....and if you try to take off, or land on P3D v5.2HF2 waves, set to Ultra...too fast...you will bury your pontoon tips and flip over so fast...and start to sink...in FACT...when you are even upside down under water, your plane will bob, and swell with the movements of the water...now THAT is realism...as you go bye bye to the bottom....

Post Edit...if you want to see some (STILL) of the best shallow reefs and fauna, out there yet today..you only have to load in REX Studio's many custom graphics for such. After you load them in, go and take a Caribbean flight, and be amazed at the color of the shallow water...the visible coral reefs...and to date, nothing released in updates for MSFS can touch them.  Right now...if just talking about water visuals...P3D is still King of the Flight Sim Heap.

Edited August 12, 20214 yr by Sesquashtoo

Just now, Sesquashtoo said:

Gawd NO....and if you try to take off, or land on P3D v5.2HF2 waves, set to Ultra...to fast...you will bury your pontoon tips and flip over so fast...and start to sink...in FACT...when you are even upside down under water, your plane will bob, and swell with the movements of the water...now THAT is realism...as you go bye bye to the bottom....

this is really new to me, thanks for explaining !

2 minutes ago, RTK1972 said:

this is really new to me, thanks for explaining !

Seriously....if you still have P3D, or if you do not, and you love water flights over it...on it...Amphibian operations...those interests alone, is worth buying the flight sim...and then getting REX Studio's latest program for it, which allows you to tune the water a zillion ways...and not the least to add deep coral or shallow sea coral water masks around the world...and especially, around all the South Sea islands of the Pacific...as well as in the Atlantic(the Caribbean).   Totally worth buying P3D for just that feature!  It will be many months to years, before MSFS will begin to  mimic what is already (for water bodies) to have in P3D.   Absolutely, and typed by a Water Fanatic!

7 minutes ago, Sesquashtoo said:

Seriously....if you still have P3D, or if you do not, and you love water flights over it...on it...Amphibian operations...those interests alone, is worth buying the flight sim...and then getting REX Studio's latest program for it, which allows you to tune the water a zillion ways...and not the least to add deep coral or shallow sea coral water masks around the world...and especially, around all the South Sea islands of the Pacific...as well as in the Atlantic(the Caribbean).   Totally worth buying P3D for just that feature!  It will be many months to years, before MSFS will begin to  mimic what is already (for water bodies) to have in P3D.   Absolutely, and typed by a Water Fanatic!

i have to admit that i love to look at the water from above so water landings etc. are not my focus. But it sound interseting what you write. I am more the Airbus and boing guy. but also, with MSFS the first time, low and slow flyer and that was one of the reasons why this sim complety overwhelmed me. But i get your point.

4 minutes ago, RTK1972 said:

i have to admit that i love to look at the water from above so water landings etc. are not my focus. But it sound interseting what you write. I am more the Airbus and boing guy. but also, with MSFS the first time, low and slow flyer and that was one of the reasons why this sim complety overwhelmed me. But i get your point.

Yes, as you describe your usage, then MSFS SU5HF2 is perhaps the total ticket for you.  Although water bodies like the ocean, it's (even) color is far superior in P3D than presently in MSFS, still, for yourself, from height, flying the tubes, and more or less VFR over water and land mass,  MSFS is the ticket for you.  Cheers!   Of course I fly and love both...but, if I want an 80 to 100 percent flight involving water...without a need to hand-wringing...I tap the P3D button and am in water immersion---> 'heaven'. 🙂

Edited August 12, 20214 yr by Sesquashtoo

47 minutes ago, Clutch Cargo said:

  I have hard drives full off add-ons but I don't regret "the investment".  Heck, I enjoyed each and every platform and helped out fellow developers in the process.  For me, that's part of the hobby... the journey.

 

Same here.  I've used ALL the sims since 1995.  I've really really enjoyed my time with FS98, FSX, P3D V4 and XP11 and now MSFS...even though it does have a lot of quirks.  I've spent thousands of dollars on addons, but over the course of two+ decades.  Don't regret anything.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Give me :

- the terrain + AG + photogrammetry of MSFS

- the sky + clouds of MSFS

- the multi monitor support + NVSURROUND fix of P3Dv5

- the water of P3Dv5

- the Enhanced SDK of P3Dv5 (home cockpit support)

+ DX12 for MSFS

 

And will be the happiest home pilot there is ✈️

 

No going back for me I've been spoiled by MSFS.

Go back? Never left. Why should I? Each has it's own unique perspective and not one is perfect!!

2 hours ago, HiFlyer said:

I had an entire Drive devoted simply to all the things I had either downloaded or purchased over the years for FS9, FSX and P3D. It was several terabytes of things that I had carefully preserved for years, much of which is unavailable and or can no longer be found.

But it was time to give it up. Everything Changes, and some of that stuff was literally decades old, transferred lovingly from drive to drive as they failed but never ever likely to be used again.

A few weeks ago, after hesitating for quite a while over the delete button, I finally got rid of it all, feeling like I was giving up a part of my life.

Have an idea for you - remove that hard drive, put in a display frame behind glass and call it HISTORY  ..  😆

37 minutes ago, SAPilot said:

Have an idea for you - remove that hard drive, put in a display frame behind glass and call it HISTORY  ..  😆

Oh, I was very... Uhm...... OCD, lets's say, about it all.

All of those passwords. And backups of the files, since many of them were long gone off of the web. Dead sites advertising pantyhose or something, now....

History is a good word.

Edited August 12, 20214 yr by HiFlyer