12 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

It would seem to me that an FPS loss would be much worse with the complex AIG AI. I see no FPS loss at all. 

It's not. Between 8% and 25% FPS loss at 100% (!) traffic slider (depending on the size of the airport and other factors like photogrammetry around etc.).
If you can only use like 30% of the traffic with ST either Asobos default models are more FPS-hungry than AIG's (which would come as a surprise) or MSFS at 100% means like 800 aircraft. How many aircraft do you see at let's say EGLL with MSFS traffic at 100% and how many at 30%? With AIG at 100% about 100 to 150 aircraft are being shown at/near EGLL.

12 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

After I did a lot of testing that is just what I found. On line and ground aircraft set to 20%. ATC fine and no FPS loss.

Off line and the AS default setting are a joke, ATC just goes mental. When MSFS is doing no stop ATC 98%-99% of the time, that does not help FPS.

Exactly, that's what I use too.

10 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

It's not. Between 8% and 25% FPS loss at 100% (!) traffic slider (depending on the size of the airport and other factors like photogrammetry around etc.).
If you can only use like 30% of the traffic with ST either Asobos default models are more FPS-hungry than AIG's (which would come as a surprise) or MSFS at 100% means like 800 aircraft. How many aircraft do you see at let's say EGLL with MSFS traffic at 100% and how many at 30%? With AIG at 100% about 100 to 150 aircraft are being shown at/near EGLL.

Are you saying that the more complex AIG aircraft, are easier  on performance that the simpler default Asobo aircraft. That's ridiculous.

Edited November 18, 20214 yr by Bobsk8

19 hours ago, Alvega said:

Nope. That needs to be fixed by Asobo.

 

19 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

Yeah, I like to see take offs, so I am going to stick with Off Line AI

 

Kai said he's going to try and make a workaround to force Live Traffic to depart. It will require you to have the AIG Traffic Controller, but I don't believe you will need anything else from AIG.

Edited November 18, 20214 yr by Tuskin38

56 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

I have tried both. Off line, I have traffic set to 25%, no FPS problems at all, and plenty of AI. 

49 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

After I did a lot of testing that is just what I found. On line and ground aircraft set to 20%. ATC fine and no FPS loss.

Off line and the AS default setting are a joke, ATC just goes mental. When MSFS is doing no stop ATC 98%-99% of the time, that does not help FPS.

 

6 hours ago, supersym said:

Hi !

I've a big loss of fps :

At Heathrow wIthout ST AIOffline, 100 % trafic  I get 35 fps. Same with ST : 12 fps

 What can I do ?

Thanks

5 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

This thing is a frame rate hog. With AI Traffic set to offline and aircraft density set to 30% I lose about 30% of frames.

ATC is close to unuseable because of the constant chatter.

 

Try loading up in EGLL with 25 or 30% for offline-AI and ground traffic disabled (the hit seems to be airport specific so perhaps something to do with the flight plans).

If you are getting a hit, post up here

Offline traffic density - Simple Traffic - AEROSOFT COMMUNITY SERVICES

Edited November 18, 20214 yr by DylanM

EGLL is within offline traffic spawning range of 2 other decently sized airports, EGSS and EGKK, which could account for some of the FPS Drop.

Edited November 18, 20214 yr by Tuskin38

25 minutes ago, DylanM said:

 

 

Try loading up in EGLL with 25 or 30% for offline-AI and ground traffic disabled (the hit seems to be airport specific so perhaps something to do with the flight plans).

If you are getting a hit, post up here

Offline traffic density - Simple Traffic - AEROSOFT COMMUNITY SERVICES

I have just read the topic and as normal ..just dispair at the replys. Like you I tired as low as 1% and saw the FPS hit and the mess. Just like others report other there.

KOK....set to 30%...OMG does he and mopp ever read anything?  I saw it as low as low 3%-1%......joke!

"just lower it till its OK".....Oooo yer to want 0.2?

Am not posting over there it will not go well. Its like your wrong to question anything, how dare you.

It's not all ST fault for sure but...nvm....😡, I better not say anymore.

ON line and 20% ground traffic works well. End of.

ST still makes everything a lot better than default. Also very easy to install. Best to leave it there.

O wait....

EDIT: I could have wrote a manaul with other setting to suit more people and that would have been after 1 hours testing. GG AS as always.

Edited November 18, 20214 yr by Nyxx

1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

Are you saying that the more complex AIG aircraft, are easier  on performance that the simpler default Asobo aircraft. That's ridiculous.

No, I didn't say this is the case; I was wondering about possible explanations for the heavier FPS loss on Simple Traffic compared to AIG, as much as I am wondering about your text comprehension right now. By the way: AIG models are not more complex. Just because they do not look like a failed genetic crossbreed between Pinocchio and an aircraft doesn't mean they are more complex or FPS-hungry.

Just now, Fiorentoni said:

No, I didn't say this is the case; I was wondering about possible explanations for the heavier FPS loss on Simple Traffic compared to AIG, as much as I am wondering about your text comprehension right now. By the way: AIG models are not more complex. Just because they do not look like a failed genetic crossbreed between Pinocchio and an aircraft doesn't mean they are more complex or FPS-hungry.

That is not what most of the reviewers have said. They said the generic AI are much easier on FPS. 

At the lovely handiwork of Roman Designs, CYOW, using RT Online traffic:

14 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

Are you saying that the more complex AIG aircraft, are easier  on performance that the simpler default Asobo aircraft. That's ridiculous.

 It's not ridiculous at all! The models and liveries used by AI Manager were created and optimized by diehard AI users themselves. The default AI we see in MSFS probably isn't optimized at all for AI or to be displayed in semi large numbers.

 Look at MyTraffic from a few years ago, the models were much much lower quality than what the freeware offered and performance there was the same even though the freeware looked a hundred times better.

New Review of Simple Traffic. BTW, a new update for it is out today. 

 

 

https://mutleyshangar.com/forum/reviews/aerosoft-tools-simple-traffic-r16/

Edited November 19, 20214 yr by Bobsk8

I bought AST and tried AIG as well. Went with AST as it was way easier to install, and good enough to populate the airports. Using online traffic with ground aircraft set to 20. Easy on the frames and took a few minutes to setup. I appreciate what AIG is doing for the community, but the installation process and effort required to get things working needs work. 

Edited November 20, 20214 yr by RobJC

Questions about Real-time online traffic settings. I do not see any of the aircraft moving at KDEN. Even at 100% ground density they all just sit there. No taxi. No takeoffs.  

18 minutes ago, RobJC said:

Questions about Real-time online traffic settings. I do not see any of the aircraft moving at KDEN. Even at 100% ground density they all just sit there. No taxi. No takeoffs.  

I believe lack of TO's has to do w/ Asobo's current RT Online traffic functionality--ST is simply taking that traffic and skinning it, not always be some of the time matching what ought to be at that particular airport.  I'm sure Asobo's will get updated to show TO's as well, in due time.  Here's a screen shot at CYOW, appropriately showing my Air Canada livery and a similar one in from ST--and notice it's not the pointy nose model either but appears to be another 787: