November 21, 20214 yr 13 hours ago, Bobsk8 said: I am doing some experimenting now, but I am told that this haze is not a problem in Europe, just in the US, Might try a couple of flights in Europe and see if you still get the haze. Nope. Its in the UK too. After taking off from London City, I couldn't word not allowed Canary Wharf until I was right on top of it and from there couldn't see Tower Bridge. The haze is everywhere.
November 21, 20214 yr What with the haze and half the sky washed out when looking towards the sun it's a miracle anyone can see anything! Edited November 21, 20214 yr by Rockliffe HowardMSI Mag B650 Tomahawk MB, Ryzen7-7800X3D CPU@5ghz, Arctic AIO II 360 cooler, Nvidia RTX4090 GPU, 32gb DDR5@6000Mhz, SSD/2Tb+SSD/500Gb+OS, Corsair 1000W PSU, LG Ultragear 48"4K, MFG Crosswinds, TQ6 Throttle, Fulcrum One YokeMy FlightSim YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@skyhigh776
November 21, 20214 yr I’ve do four flight around the UK, last was an hour ago out off EGLC, no haze at all. All the way upto EGPH, no haze anywhere in the UK with live weather. David Murden. MSFS • Fenix A320 • PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi • FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet • • Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF • Flightsim.to • DCS • A10c II • F-16c • F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier • Terrains = • Nevada NTTR • Persian Gulf • Syria • Marianas • • [email protected] All Cores HT ON • 32GB DDR4 3200MHz • RTX 3080 • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos® • Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip •
November 21, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, Nyxx said: I’ve do four flight around the UK, last was an hour ago out off EGLC, no haze at all. All the way upto EGPH, no haze anywhere in the UK with live weather. So how come , some are seeing haze and others are not, both using live weather. ????
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November 21, 20214 yr 9 hours ago, sd_flyer said: 10 hours ago, Bobsk8 said: This is probably because in Europe they have CAVU or CAVOK or 9999 LOL In the US, it appears that if the METAR indicates visibility of 10 miles, they are setting it to exactly 10 miles in every case. Perhaps the new METAR parser in MSFS is interpreting “9999” (in a European METAR) as 9999 miles rather than 9999 meters, which would explain why the “haze everywhere” problem does not seem to exist there. I know that MSFS has had issues in the past properly converting to and from imperial to metric units. Jim BarrettLicensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.
November 21, 20214 yr 12 minutes ago, JRBarrett said: In the US, it appears that if the METAR indicates visibility of 10 miles, they are setting it to exactly 10 miles in every case. Perhaps the new METAR parser in MSFS is interpreting “9999” (in a European METAR) as 9999 miles rather than 9999 meters, which would explain why the “haze everywhere” problem does not seem to exist there. I know that MSFS has had issues in the past properly converting to and from imperial to metric units. Automated weather systems that most airport have only can "see" up to 10SM (don't remember exactly which one A01/02 in remark) Also a good reminder that METAR and TAF actually show weather within 5 miles of airport. There is also chart called "weather depiction chart" that consists of collection of METARS and does has provision for "clear sky". It could definitely help Asobo within US Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASELMy System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSDPut my hands on (pic/dual/given)7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22
November 21, 20214 yr 14 hours ago, sd_flyer said: Just come back from the flight and in my case real world meets sim pretty good lol I grew up in San Diego county and recognize exactly where your “real” shot was taken - flying eastbound and crossing Interstate 15 a few miles north of Escondido. Jim BarrettLicensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.
November 21, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, JRBarrett said: I grew up in San Diego county and recognize exactly where your “real” shot was taken - flying eastbound and crossing Interstate 15 a few miles north of Escondido. You guys are good spies LOL Yes we had tons of traffic and our regular spots were taken by "stacked" aircraft from other schools. So we fled across 15 to valley center to find a bubble of happiness LOL Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASELMy System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSDPut my hands on (pic/dual/given)7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22
November 21, 20214 yr Just took off from Rotterdam, and no haze at all. Lots of really low clouds however.
November 21, 20214 yr The weather just transform all of a sudden, been suffered several times both on ground and in the air, for god's sake please make developing things behind the scenes, i just want to learn flying in peace. R9-5950X // 32Gb@3600 // B550 Unify // 3090 TUF OC // 1TB 980Pro M.2 // Nuctua D15 // Seasonic PRIME TX-1000 // LG GP-850 1440P@180Hz // HOTAS WARTHOG&TFRP // Windows 11 Sorry for my pathetic English , thank you.😅
November 21, 20214 yr 8 hours ago, Bobsk8 said: So how come , some are seeing haze and others are not, both using live weather. ???? No idea??? David Murden. MSFS • Fenix A320 • PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi • FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet • • Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF • Flightsim.to • DCS • A10c II • F-16c • F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier • Terrains = • Nevada NTTR • Persian Gulf • Syria • Marianas • • [email protected] All Cores HT ON • 32GB DDR4 3200MHz • RTX 3080 • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos® • Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip •
November 21, 20214 yr I just flew the FBW A320 from Kjac-Ksan , no haze at all, infact a clear sky all the way. I have yet to see any over Europe as well. There was low cloud on approach to LiML earlier , but that was cloud at 2k AMD Ryzen 7 5800x3d, MSI X570 Pro, 32 gb DDR4 3600 ram, Gigabyte 6800 16gb GPU, 1x 2tb Samsung NvMe , 1x 2tb Sabrent NvME, 1x Crucial 4tb Nvme M2 Drive
November 21, 20214 yr Approaching KBMI now and can see a fog / haze bank getting closer. It really is very well implemented. i910900k, RTX 3090, 32GB DDR4 RAM, AW3423DW, Ruddy girt big mug of Yorkshire Tea
November 21, 20214 yr 10 hours ago, Bobsk8 said: So how come , some are seeing haze and others are not, both using live weather. ???? If, as some of us surmise, the misplaced fog/haze is due to cloud heights being misinterpreted by the new weather system as MSL instead of AGL, it requires a combination of a cloud layer at, for example 2,000 AGL, and an airport at or above something like 1,500 or so. There are lots of places in the American Midwest and West that are at surprisingly high altitudes. Combine that with a cloud layer at some intermediate altitude interpreted as being expressed as MSL and you get ground fog. I tried this out yesterday and for these cases, at least, it does check out. There may be other causes, but this looks like it's one. For airports near sea level it's not a problem, since AGL and MSL are about the same, so one would never notice. Hope this makes sense..... Cheers. John Wiesenfeld KPBI | FAA PPL/SEL/IFR in a galaxy long ago and far away | VATSIM PILOT P2 i7-11700K, 32 GB DDR4 3.6 GHz, MSI RTX 3070ti, Dell 4K monitor
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