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The haze is incredible

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1 hour ago, fppilot said:

And thus goes the eye candy sight-seeing.  That was the basis of my reference.  How odd they would allow this out the door to detract from their greatest attribute!

From what I am seeing since the last update, P3D is starting to look better. 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, thetford569 said:

I traced my CTD issues with my runway to the Working Title G3000.  When I disabled it the crashes didn't happen.  But they also only happened when spawning on the runway.  I could have the G3000 active and spawn into a parking spot and it was fine.  I was able to continue working and the G3000 will be all brand new anyway eventually so I didn't really worry about it past that point.  I notified WT about the issue but they have bigger fish to fry right now.  I don't think it will be an issue most likely once I am able to get the airport finished.  I am still working on it but progress is slow.  It's all done in my spare time and right now that has been very limited.  Thanks for asking though!  Hopefully I will make more progress soon because I am ready to start tackling another airport project.

Interesting that the culprit was the g3000.  Glad you're still making progress.  Up until msfs2020 I was still fsx'ing and one of my last flights was out of your KAFW - you did a fantastic job on that project, much appreciated.  I was dabbling in airport design back then, but no time now with business, especially trying to learn new tools/techniques/SDK/constant sim changes, so I definitely understand your pain.  Nice to see your still at it and I can't wait for your first release to ms2020.     

Regards, Kendall

 

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20 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

From what I am seeing since the last update, P3D is starting to look better. 

I have a flight scheduled tomorrow from St Louis to Dallas.  About 3.2 hours in the MSFS Turbo Bonanza. Getting ready to see the enroute time if I instead fly the RA Turbine Duke v2, my all time favorite GA model........  And the Megascenery Earth V3 that I own is no slouch on scenery from 20,000 ft.  Especially when its about cutting through the haze....

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7 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Get you big instrument pants folks

No problem with that here. But this topic is about the incredible haze......  Incredible it is!  Even when the ambient temperature and humidity says it's "fake news"!  Today I finally decided to just read metars and totally ignored ATIS/AWOS.

I was hoping to to fall to sleep more quickly tonight, but alas I may not be able to see the sheep to count them.....  At least at times though it is orange it is not purple.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGoDaYjdfSg&ab_channel=JimiHendrixVEVO

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I just did a full daylight flight to see what was going on with the WX in SU7 (KSRQ-KSBN in A32NX).  Flight started great out of KSRQ....weather looked good, none of this haze that is being talked about.  All the way up to cruise was great.  Descent into South Bend Indiana, KSBN so far so good and once at about 20k....bamm, there is some kind of odd haze layer injected.  Continuing descent...there it goes again..another strange haze layer and then again on final an abrupt visibility change....ughh.  I wouldn't mind the haziness as much but it appears we now have abrupt transitions....nooo!!  MS/Asobo...why????!!

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14 minutes ago, Flic1 said:

....nooo!!  MS/Asobo...why????!!

Do you really need to ask that question? That is exactly what weather ejection "metars"  does and that is what folks asked for.

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29 minutes ago, jbdbow1970 said:

Do you really need to ask that question? That is exactly what weather ejection "metars"  does and that is what folks asked for.

It basically keeps everybody who flys VFR and use live weather, on the ground for a lot of days a year.

 

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Amusing to note that this thread was started by some users who thought the haze was a great improvement...

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4 hours ago, hansb57 said:

It basically keeps everybody who flys VFR and use live weather, on the ground for a lot of days a year.

 

I tend to disagree. This will make you properly fly VFR. As in you now need to follow scenery contours, rivers or infrastructural elements (road, train track) to find your way. VFR is not just looking 30 nm in to the distance and point at you destination. You can still fly VFR with 8km/5nm visual range. Under certain circumstances this can even be reduced.  

 

10 hours ago, Stearmandriver said:

Part of the problem, which has been mentioned elsewhere, is that live weather seems to be interpreting 10SM on a METAR as literally 10 miles vis, not 10 or greater.  Sure doesn't explain why haze would be present in manually set clear weather though. 

I has an experience similar to your first shot yesterday flying into egtk.  Apparently 10 miles visibility but couldn't see the airport until I was virtually on top of it. 

 

This is going to make life very difficult. 

IMO the haze and the weather presentation has become incredibly worse since SU7. The haze is totally exaggerated, sometimes you cannot see the runway till the last 10 feet above it (like in dense fog), the clouds partially look like FS2004 clouds now, smoke clouds on the grund, no I am not amused. Hope they improve it soon.

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21 minutes ago, PTI139 said:

IMO the haze and the weather presentation has become incredibly worse since SU7. The haze is totally exaggerated, sometimes you cannot see the runway till the last 10 feet above it (like in dense fog), the clouds partially look like FS2004 clouds now, smoke clouds on the grund, no I am not amused. Hope they improve it soon.

The haze is certainly overdone. I experienced the same as you discribe.

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7 hours ago, hansb57 said:

It basically keeps everybody who flys VFR and use live weather, on the ground for a lot of days a year.

as real as it gets, for real VFR only pilots. reminds me of my time as a beginning real world private pilot. low clouds and low visibility is your best incentive to step up and get your IFR rating.

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very nice.

Another flight into EGTK today.  METAR said visibility 9999 but I couldn't see the runway until I was a mile or less from it because of the haze.   

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