2 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

Maybe ProSim gets a cut out of every Fenix A320 sold? If the Fenix A320 sells well, such an agreement could be lucrative for ProSim.

I can't imagine any licensing deal that didn't give ProSim their cut.

(Considering a personal ProSim license costs $40+ per year on its own I'm fascinated to see how much Fenix end up charging)

Does this mean they’ll stop developing for other sims? 

13 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Does this mean they’ll stop developing for other sims? 

I would think so. Given what’s happened to what they have seen with the DC6 why would they bother with very small sales from other sims.

The price of the NG is going to be very interesting in more ways than one.

20 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Does this mean they’ll stop developing for other sims? 

It would not surprise me in the least, why invest money and resources in a dying market?

39 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Does this mean they’ll stop developing for other sims? 

Randazzo had a post in their forums in response to someone yesterday that MSFS currently is lacking the debugging tools they'd like to develop directly in the platform. So they are basically having to build everything in P3D to test it first. A situation he admitted wasn't ideal... At that point given you've already developed it for P3D you might as well release it there too. I'd imagine if the debugging tools for MSFS improved (something I'm sure developers want and are working with Asobo on) you'd likely see their willingness to develop for two simulators change.

Edited November 23, 20214 yr by MrNuke

Hey Majestic, just think how many Q400’s you could sell in MSFS…hint hint.

3 hours ago, Treetops45 said:

My gut feeling is that a DC-3 by PMDG, or another quality producer, would out sell the DC-6.

It's easier to fly, has a lot of history, & I hope someone will do it justice, soon.

T45

 

Maybe PMDG in coöperation with Microsoft. Neumann wants to make a series of legendary aircraft, beginning with the AN-2.

Edited November 23, 20214 yr by Gerwil

5 minutes ago, regis9 said:

Hey Majestic, just think how many Q400’s you could sell in MSFS…hint hint.

Yes, your comment reminded me of the developers that only produce aircraft for XPlane. Aerobask for example generate beautiful models only for XPlane. They have been working on an amazing Falcon 8X … if only they would branch out to the MSFS. Huge loss for these guys. They must have thought about developing for MSFS, but for whatever reasons have decided to shut the door to Microsoft.

1 minute ago, Doering said:

Yes, your comment reminded me of the developers that only produce aircraft for XPlane. Aerobask for example generate beautiful models only for XPlane. They have been working on an amazing Falcon 8X … if only they would branch out to the MSFS. Huge loss for these guys. They must have thought about developing for MSFS, but for whatever reasons have decided to shut the door to Microsoft.

If you hang out on any of the XP forums or discords you’ll find there’s a lot of animosity amongst XP developers toward MSFS, which is quite contrary to what you find with P3D developers.  I can’t really explain it, but it’s fascinating.

3 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

The irony is, because the DC-6 sold so well for PMDG, it gives them extra cash to hire more developer, which they could use to develop more products for MSFS and develop them at a slightly faster rate too.  The success of the DC-6 probably just increased the likelihood of PMDG considering a DC-3 for MSFS.

Of course, finding skilled developers with experience developing flight sim products is probably not easy, and you can only add so many developers to a software project before it starts to really hurt the total productivity of the project.  But getting all that extra cash from the DC-6 sales will probably just incentivize PMDG to push forward with more MSFS products, and at a faster development rate too.

Yep. Same old story - 9 women can't have a baby in a month.

Ray

24 minutes ago, Doering said:

Yes, your comment reminded me of the developers that only produce aircraft for XPlane. Aerobask for example generate beautiful models only for XPlane. They have been working on an amazing Falcon 8X … if only they would branch out to the MSFS. Huge loss for these guys. They must have thought about developing for MSFS, but for whatever reasons have decided to shut the door to Microsoft.

Aerobask certainly makes some fantastic aircraft, I bought a few during my stint in X-Plane a few years back.

It’s odd that there was never much cross pollination between P3D and X-Plane aircraft developers, and unfortunately that seems to still be the case with MSFS now.

26 minutes ago, Gilandred said:

If you hang out on any of the XP forums or discords you’ll find there’s a lot of animosity amongst XP developers toward MSFS, which is quite contrary to what you find with P3D developers.  I can’t really explain it, but it’s fascinating.

Yes, I just shake my head when I read the discussions and read between the lines on those forums. So short sighted in many respects. As the XP platform continues to be dropped by so many, there may be a time in the future when sales from add-ons become so small … they may regret not making the move sooner … if they ever do.

I suspect that by the time PMDG and FENIX drops, the WX engine will be well on it's way to being good enough (certainly VATSIM'able), and GSX hopefully not far behind (if at all); then its game on-for real.  Hopefully by the end of Jan or Feb we'll be in a full featured sim again.  Then it will really be off to the races for the new sim with whatever else gets fixed and added in that timeframe and going forward.  Good times are coming.  🙂 

To be fair, though, one has to wonder what PMDG's DC-6 sales would have looked like in a market with many more options.  The DC-6 was a fringe product in the other sims, and with plenty of other, more modern options available, it's no wonder it didn't sell well. 

In MSFS it was all alone as the first payware add-on from an established developer, and in the company of few other decent options available of any acft type from any developer.

When you're the only girl at the dance, the fact of your incredible popularity there isn't that remarkable.  You could be as ugly as the south end of a northbound donkey, and you're still gonna be the belle of the ball.

Speaking of butt ugly--who would have bought a Captainsim 777 add-on with a Frankensteined default 4-engine panel in any other sim? 

 

10 minutes ago, w6kd said:

To be fair, though, one has to wonder what PMDG's DC-6 sales would have looked like in a market with many more options.  The DC-6 was a fringe product in the other sims, and with plenty of other, more modern options available, it's no wonder it didn't sell well. 

In MSFS it was all alone as the first payware add-on from an established developer, and in the company of few other decent options available of any acft type from any developer.

When you're the only girl at the dance, the fact of your incredible popularity there isn't that remarkable.  You could be as ugly as the south end of a northbound donkey, and you're still gonna be the belle of the ball.

Speaking of butt ugly--who would have bought a Captainsim 777 add-on with a Frankensteined default 4-engine panel in any other sim? 

 

I think the DC6 is Niche no matter how you slice it.  It had to be shear overall numbers (market size-if you build it they will come) that came from outside of our little bubble here.  I mean, the was already a lot of payware GA in MSFS by then.  The DC6 to those folks probably looks the same only older.  I think it would have sold the same even if it came after the 37.

Edited November 23, 20214 yr by Jeff Nielsen