4 minutes ago, Car147 said:

Agree totally with this.. People seem to miss the point. It's MS that push the developer, not the other way round. If you could have been a fly on the wall at some of those meetings i bet your bottom dollar Asobo have said on numerous occasions " It's not ready" Only to fall on deaf ears.

I'll take that bet and also bet that the MS folks know something that you don't. 

Cheers

bs

2 hours ago, Krakin said:

The Caribbean.

No it's not.  The cloud decks are still too low.  I just flew around St. Lucia and it looked a mess when compared to the actual METAR.

4 minutes ago, Dillon said:

No it's not.  The cloud decks are still too low.  I just flew around St. Lucia and it looked a mess when compared to the actual METAR.

Yes, the decks tend to be too low but at least the clouds are there. Better to have clouds that need a height adjustment than having no clouds at all.

4 hours ago, Krakin said:

If they roll back to the previous weather, I'll be upset. Weather is MUCH more accurate for the region I'm usually flying in. No more clear skies in the sim when I'd see a ton of clouds looking out my window. It's not perfect but it is moving in the right direction.

The only agreement I'll give you is the look of the sky has greatly improved.  I setup canned weather options now and can confidently say when this get's resolved if Asobo doesn't change the sky they've produced now it's going to be amazing.  AGL versus MSL is all we need corrected.  There is an improvement there's no doubt there.

16 minutes ago, Krakin said:

Yes, the decks tend to be too low but at least the clouds are there. Better to have clouds that need a height adjustment than having no clouds at all.

The point is the height wasn't an issue pre-SU7, now it is hence the need for a fix. We shouldn't have to make do like this until SU8 sometime in February, it needs a hotfix along with the other errors from the update.

1 hour ago, Car147 said:

Agree totally with this.. People seem to miss the point. It's MS that push the developer, not the other way round. If you could have been a fly on the wall at some of those meetings i bet your bottom dollar Asobo have said on numerous occasions " It's not ready" Only to fall on deaf ears.

Absolutely. It's about market share and money right now. Perfection can come later. If Jorg and his team stamp their feet too much on this, Asobo will follow Aces out the door.  Now that would make these cloud issues seem inconsequential in the bigger scheme of things wouldn't it team.  

Of course I don't think it will go that way because MS have already made an example of Aces and I'm sure Asobo will just keep toeing the party line no matter how reluctantly. I mean, Asobo knew that when they took this on.

 

Edited November 29, 20214 yr by Lord Farringdon

weather definitely worked better before....getting pop-in now after taking off.

10 hours ago, Mark1616 said:

The problem with this weather "upgrade" is that it is so bad the only fix for now is to roll-back whatever changes they've made in SU7.

Certainly most would be happy with a role back, but what we really don't know is what can be tweaked in the current implementation to get it to where it is an improvement over SU6.  It's quite possible it mostly needs refinement and this is not like positioning 2D cloud sprights it's a more organic, more powerful means of depicting weather that may be a case of tweaking variables in the configuration table...we just don't really know unless y you're intimate w/ this particular means of depicting weather and clouds.  Plus, they must stay within their performance budget, so it may be harder than it looks so they are just feeling their way into the future by sending up trial balloons or what have you.

10 hours ago, OlliePen said:

Truth ^ . Perhaps someone might have released a little blurb or something saying, "We know there are problems, and we're working to fix them."

Perhaps someone did exactly that last week!

7 hours ago, MrFuzzy said:

the live weather was working absolutely fine

 

6 hours ago, mwilk said:

The weather system hasn't been right since day one of the alpha.

Huh. So which of these was it, "absolutely fine" or "hasn't been right"?

Opinions differ, I guess, and mileage does vary depending on technical capabilities and personal preferences. I find the current weather depiction to be remarkably accurate, notwithstanding the problems with incorrect cloud layer placement, a fix for which will surely be made available. I've learned to assume that every flight may end in an instrument approach, something that real work pilots are well advised to consider. Great fun and good training, too.

3 hours ago, Car147 said:

Agree totally with this.. People seem to miss the point. It's MS that push the developer, not the other way round. If you could have been a fly on the wall at some of those meetings i bet your bottom dollar Asobo have said on numerous occasions " It's not ready" Only to fall on deaf ears.

In this case, I am glad the MS didnt wait.  I have been enjoying the sim from day one.   

31 minutes ago, Tierborn said:

In this case, I am glad the MS didnt wait.  I have been enjoying the sim from day one.   

As it has for me, but some are having issues.

My chief complaints are how the METARs have been integrated, and the appearance of cloud textures themselves.  Both of those things sound like a case of tweaking variables to at least dramatically improve upon.  I think they're just on holiday and thankfully most of the sim still works great for me, lucky me 😀

3 hours ago, MarcG said:

The point is the height wasn't an issue pre-SU7, now it is hence the need for a fix. We shouldn't have to make do like this until SU8 sometime in February, it needs a hotfix along with the other errors from the update.

The real point is that the weather is more representative of the real world conditions I've observed than ever before. It's like Noel said, this is looking like a better implementation that needs tweaks rather than a roll back. I rather load my sim up with some clouds lower than they should be rather that seeing far less clouds than there should be. Tweaking the height vs going back to that and no haze at any time....which one makes more sense to you?

6 hours ago, Krakin said:

The Caribbean.

OK. Nice coincidence.  I had flown from Hilton Head (KHXD) to Nassau (MYNN) back on the 24th  and despite clear weather in the reports that day, I was plagued with the dreaded haze and low clouds and literally never saw the ocean or islands. 

Today however, I flew back from Nassau to Hilton Head and the weather was much better, pretty spot on with reports.  Screen shots validate it.  Totally different than my experience last Wednesday and prior back to SU7.  Totally different!

The flight did not go so well later.  I started encountering winds at 8,000 from the W at 65 knots as I neared the Florida coast near Vero Beach.  Actual winds aloft reports had winds at 15 to 20 for that altitude.  So I descended to 6,000 and the winds got worse.  75 from the same direction.  Incredibly off!  I fought those 75 knot winds all the way until I descended to below 1,000 on approach at Hilton Head.