8 hours ago, bobcat999 said:

The personnel have changed.

I didn't know about this. That explains so much! Captain Sim used to be a pretty good developer. I loved the 752, L1011, and 737 Classic. I always viewed them at the same level as Aerosoft or WilcoSim, who also used to make pretty solid products.

They blew me away with their super HD texture packs for the 757, which I think was the first in the industry. They always had cool trinkets with their products like your Captains Coat on the coat rack swaying back and forth with the movement of the plane, or the emergency slides which I believe they were the first to implement. And then came MSFS with their 777 and I figured it was a quick cash grab to fund bigger products. I'm kind of sad to see that wasn't the case, but it makes sense.

Thanks for the bit of history Bobcat!

When oh when are we going to get a real airliner that actually has proper systems depth to the actual airliner being sold?  All payware airliners so far coming out is a cash grab with a coverup lip stick job that relies on other default systems and a shell within a shell, with very poor implementation and zero plausible fidelity. FBW A320 blows this out of the water and its free fairly complete modelling with a very well representation of its systems and a very functional FMC. Did I say free?  There is a very hungry market that is itching to fly a proper airliner other than an A320.  

Their products were better on FS9!

They probably sold more MSFS version in first couple days than all of other sims combined. 🙂

They really know how to p*ss off existed customers don't they?

2 minutes ago, C2615 said:

They really know how to p*ss off existed customers don't they?

Besides the undeniable fact that they make nice-looking external models....its is the one other thing they absolutely excel at!   If they could code the systems and avionics as well as they can alienate customers...they'd be right up there with PMDG, iFly or Fenix!

Sadly all they seem to be interested in these days is to port over their nice-looking external models to MSFS and milk the MSFS cash cow, not actually producing fully developed aircraft....the P3d 767 was going in the right direction...and they just abandoned it.  Until they've ported every one of thier external shells to MSFS, they won't even consider developing a new aircraft. 

Don't blame them....minimal effort, maximum profits....I can't blame them for taking the low, easy road...but then again they've never impressed me as a Dev with integrity and interested in maintaining good customer relations.

Wow so they take the default 747 and turn it into not only a 777 but now a 767.... Like are they just that lazy? What's next a 727 with an A320 style cockpit? Seriously why don't they just port over their classic stuff

Edited December 7, 20214 yr by z06z33

ah, Captain Sim good old bashing , a great tradition of the simmers community ! A tradition which has its specialists 😄. 

CS is pretty clear on the product page about the limitations of their 767. There is no cheating of the customers.  It is also at almost half the price of the DC-6. So where is the problem ? You don’t like it, you don’t buy it.  There are people who will love it. 

Speaking of tradition, since FS9, or may be earlier, there has been is one to graft a cockpit of one aircraft on another aircraft. Never liked it but  it is still widely popular. 

 

9 hours ago, Garys said:

The 767 and 777 share the same section 41  so that is not correct

 

Yes, you are correct!

https://www.airliners.net/photo/American-Airlines/Boeing-777-223-ER/380542

The window frames are very different between the two which makes the 767 look smaller internally; it looks like they did not modify

the window frames in the CS model and other aspects of the cockpit features that are different in the 777 vs 767 despite a lot of similarities on the main panel.  For 30 dollars, that is ok I guess 👍 A pity they could not modify some of the modelling of the structure\plastics\colors of the frames of the windows as they are different and occupy so much of the cockpit and make a big difference of the overall appearance between the two.

The sound package...geez; hope someone develops one.  Default 747-8 sounds can't be any more different from the actual sounds.

Edited December 7, 20214 yr by simon747

CaptainSim? hm, no, certainly not. Not today, not tomorrow, never more.

11 hours ago, Garys said:

The 767 and 777 share the same section 41  so that is not correct

I always thought the front section looked similar but never knew it was the same section used on both. Very interesting. 

In case anyone else is interested: https://avgeekery.com/2014317how-similar-are-the-767-and-777-common/

The 767-400 uses the 777 cockpit apart from the FMC unit, overhead panel, and having the same 767 circuit breakers behind them, its just a cramped 777 cockpit with 76 parts.

Sure it is targeted to the most common and majority MSFS user. Non serious Casual Simmer.

2 hours ago, sem said:

The 767-400 uses the 777 cockpit apart from the FMC unit, overhead panel, and having the same 767 circuit breakers behind them, its just a cramped 777 cockpit with 76 parts.

True, but there are a lot of other structural differences ie; window pillar design, color and material and other plastic elements that make the cockpits look a lot different overall when not looking directly at the main panel between the -400 and a 777.

Just when you think CaptainSim reached the bottom of the barrel, here they go again. Let's get that straight - they copied their 777 cockpit which on its own uses a copied 747 system architecture. It's a copy of a copy, it's a scam based on a scam. That's almost philosophical.