Hi, just want to know which one is recommended more, the Just Flight Arrow III or the Carenado ? I know there is a big price difference between the two, I do have the 337 from Carenado and love it.

3 minutes ago, Bill A said:

Hi, just want to know which one is recommended more, the Just Flight Arrow III or the Carenado ? I know there is a big price difference between the two, I do have the 337 from Carenado and love it.

Justflight for sure!!!

Just flight.

I'm not the usual Carenado hater, in fact I own quite a few. But Just Flight is my favourite by a mile.

Just Flight +1

28 minutes ago, Bill A said:

Hi, just want to know which one is recommended more, the Just Flight Arrow III or the Carenado ? I know there is a big price difference between the two, I do have the 337 from Carenado and love it.

If you have a choice, I would recommend the JustFlight Turbo Arrow.  I never fly the regular version anymore..

Edited March 4, 20224 yr by Bert Pieke

Just Flight, Just Flight, Just Flight - repeat infinitum.

I do have several Carenado aircraft and enjoy them, but you did ask which is recommended more 🙂

Edited March 4, 20224 yr by MrBitstFlyer

Ok...guess its JF by a landslide...thanks

6 minutes ago, Bill A said:

Ok...guess its JF by a landslide...thanks

I have the JF Arrow, and it is slow.  I would get the Turbo version. 

Just Flight's Arrow's allow you to save the aircraft state so that it will be in the same state next time you use it.    The Turbo Arrow's allow you over-boost the engine and risk sticking the wastegate in the open condition.   You can also run them out of oil.  I like the T-tail of the IV.

I really like these vintage Gulf liveries for the JF Arrows,   they quite remind me of Steve McQueen in Lemans.

https://flightsim.to/file/22855/justflight-piper-p28r-turbo-arrow-iii-gulf-worldtour-vintage

https://flightsim.to/file/22877/justflight-piper-p28r-arrow-iv-gulf-worldtour-vintage

Edited March 4, 20224 yr by Waldo Pepper

That lightning bolt reminds me of the American Airlines "lightning bolt" livery from the 1950's.

As to the Arrow...I only own the Just Flight Arrow/Turbo Arrow.  I enjoy flying the Turbo Arrow (IV mostly but also the III).  If you get to altitude -- and the Turbo ones can do this -- you can really go relatively fast if that's a criteria you're interested in.  I've even had a Ground Speed of over 200 knots before, with a nice tailwind at 18,000 feet, although usually it's not quite that fast.

It is sort of a "Big Mac drive through meal" versus "quality sit down restaurant meal" scenario.  Both have their place.

There is nothing wrong with the Carenado, but they target a different market -  casual weekend flyers that want a "pretty " ride that is easy to fly to add to their hanger. They have no serious issues, look good, are well priced,  but can be a bit "generic".

Just Flight is the way to go if you are serious about flying the aircraft a lot.

In terms of WHICH of the PA28 from just Flight to get (I own all of them):

• the Warrior II has the most realistic "feel" to it and is the pick of the three offerings, beautiful to fly and really immersive  BUT with fixed gear and prop and no turbo it is best suited to short scenic flights below 10,000 feet and circuit work
• the Turbo Arrow package offers RG and a CSU prop and a turbo charger for enhanced high altitude performance.  It is the best of the three for longer trips and operation at altitude, especially in mountains.
• the Standard Arrow offers RG and a CSU prop but no turbo charger. It performs slightly better than the Warrior for longer trips but cannot match the Turbo. A good all round aircraft but not the ideal choice if you are just buying the one JF PA28.

TL&DNR   if you are only buying the one choose either the JF Warrior II for the fantastic realistic and immersive modelling or get the JF Turbo Arrow package if you spend a lot of time at altitude or on longer flights.  

 

Edited March 5, 20224 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick

1 hour ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

It is sort of a "Big Mac drive through meal" versus "quality sit down restaurant meal" scenario.  Both have their place.

There is nothing wrong with the Carenado, but they target a different market -  casual weekend flyers that want a "pretty " ride that is easy to fly to add to their hanger. They have no serious issues, look good, are well priced,  but can be a bit "generic".

Just Flight is the way to go if you are serious about flying the aircraft a lot.

In terms of WHICH of the PA28 from just Flight to get (I own all of them):

• the Warrior II has the most realistic "feel" to it and is the pick of the three offerings, beautiful to fly and really immersive  BUT with fixed gear and prop and no turbo it is best suited to short scenic flights below 10,000 feet and circuit work
• the Turbo Arrow package offers RG and a CSU prop and a turbo charger for enhanced high altitude performance.  It is the best of the three for longer trips and operation at altitude, especially in mountains.
• the Standard Arrow offers RG and a CSU prop but no turbo charger. It performs slightly better than the Warrior for longer trips but cannot match the Turbo. A good all round aircraft but not the ideal choice if you are just buying the one JF PA28.

TL&DNR   if you are only buying the one choose either the JF Warrior II for the fantastic realistic and immersive modelling or get the JF Turbo Arrow package if you spend a lot of time at altitude or on longer flights.  

 

Plus, get the TDS GTN!

6 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

I have the JF Arrow, and it is slow.  I would get the Turbo version. 

I purchased all of them 🙂  If flying high in the USA I'll take the turbo arrow, but flying low in the UK I'll take the Arrow or Warrior. 

I have the Just Flight Arrow III ( non turbo ) and I absolutely love it. It also comes with very generous discount codes if you want to buy the turbo III/IV or the Warrior later.