On 5/23/2022 at 5:28 PM, Tom Wright said:

The way the EFB is set out for the passenger and fuel loading and the flight status with the time countdown, together with the ACARS messages you get make this such an immersive aircraft! It's simulating more than just flying the plane, it feels like you're actually operating a real flight.

I've been enjoying this aspect of it very much as well. Give you the flavor of actually being on a schedule and having to get the job done.

4 hours ago, ianb2469 said:

So…very quick test but I resized the 8k galley texture to 4k and performance (incl a massive reduction in cpu use) seems better. 

Would you mind sharing the file here?

EDIT: Just realized I missed the last page of the thread, lol. I'll await further notice. 

Edited May 24, 20224 yr by Cpt_Piett

50 minutes ago, Daytona125 said:

My frame rate experience is bad in both 4K and 8K resolutions, doesn't seem to make a difference. VR is also un-useable for me, it's a slide show. This is the only plane I have any trouble with frame rates. I wonder if the passenger cabins high detail is wreaking havoc with my performance issues? I do hope this plane gets better(for me, or others having difficulty), it does have huge potential....

You can turn the cabin off through the EFB

Mark

 

42 minutes ago, Ikarus280 said:

What resolution are you running it on, and what's your terrain level of detail slider?

It seems that this is the main cause for low FPS if limited by mainthread. 

I also have a GTX 1080Ti with a slightly better CPU but still struggle to mantain 30 FPS, especially at complex airports. 

I am running 3840 X 2160

I normally run the TLOD - 150 & OLOD - 200, for the first flight I dialed back the TLOD - 100

I am actually doing some more testing and am sitting at the gate at London Heathrow, I just increased the TLOD - 150 then 200 and still seeing a solid 30FPS with the displays rendering on the CPU at Quality. CPU - 80% GPU - 80%

4 minutes ago, RJC68 said:

I am actually doing some more testing and am sitting at the gate at London Heathrow, I just increased the TLOD - 150 then 200 and still seeing a solid 30FPS with the displays rendering on the CPU at Quality. CPU - 80% GPU - 80%

Do you have traffic on?

2 minutes ago, Tom Wright said:

Do you have traffic on?

Real time online - on, airport - 50, ground aircraft - 100, worker - 50, road traffic - 25 (everything else at 50)

I am running at 3340x1440, terrain LOD 150 with Objects LOD at 100, photogrammtery off and no traffic, struggling to maintain 30 FPS with the fenix (1080Ti and i7-8700k) so I must be doing something wrong with other settings.

I did my tests at Gayasim LOWW and MK Studios EFHK which I heard are performance hogs, so that may be the culprit.

5 hours ago, RJC68 said:

I haven't even tried activating my onboard GPU

Thanks for you comments.  Yeah, I have seen this particular comment a lot.  I hope folks understand that when you turn on your iCPU (integrated graphics) you will impact your overall CPU performance.  So, if you are close to max on main thread, turning this function should be a no-go in my book.

"The biggest drawback of integrated graphics is that, by placing both a CPU and GPU on the same chip, one (or both) of the processors will be limited. Or, in other words, you cannot place both a CPU and GPU on the same chip without limiting one (or both) of their potential processing power.

And, while most modern processors come with integrated graphics on them, it is usually the integrated GPU that is minimalized so as to not affect the CPU’s potential performance."

iCPU issues

7 minutes ago, Mike S KPDX said:

Thanks for you comments.  Yeah, I have seen this particular comment a lot.  I hope folks understand that when you turn on your iCPU (integrated graphics) you will impact your overall CPU performance.  So, if you are close to max on main thread, turning this function should be a no-go in my book.

"The biggest drawback of integrated graphics is that, by placing both a CPU and GPU on the same chip, one (or both) of the processors will be limited. Or, in other words, you cannot place both a CPU and GPU on the same chip without limiting one (or both) of their potential processing power.

And, while most modern processors come with integrated graphics on them, it is usually the integrated GPU that is minimalized so as to not affect the CPU’s potential performance."

iCPU issues

The simple reason I tried this first was that in my case my CPU was under utilized compared to my 1080TI so I figured I would try rendering the displays with just the CPU not the integrated GPU and in my scenario it seems to work ok as it balances the CPU & GPU more. I haven't even enabled the onboard GPU so I assume it is just rendering using raw CPU power.

I was not trying to brag, quite the opposite. I was nervous about buying this addon due to all the comments made throughout this thread. I think it all depends on how you run your settings for the exact specific hardware you have. 

1 hour ago, Mike S KPDX said:

"The biggest drawback of integrated graphics is that, by placing both a CPU and GPU on the same chip, one (or both) of the processors will be limited. Or, in other words, you cannot place both a CPU and GPU on the same chip without limiting one (or both) of their potential processing power.

And, while most modern processors come with integrated graphics on them, it is usually the integrated GPU that is minimalized so as to not affect the CPU’s potential performance."

iCPU issues

Where did that come from? No offense, but I'm not buying that. I've been in the computer industry for over 35 years and have never heard of that or seen evidence.

That's like saying you can't put a driver's seat and a passenger's seat in the same car without limiting somebody's leg room.

1 minute ago, MDFlier said:

computer industry for over 35 years

Working for a corporation IT dept. where young girls cant figure out how to turn on their computer? 🙂

I wish. Grumpy old engineers and pimple faced programmers.

18 hours ago, tfm said:

Crumbs. So … how do you do that ?? 

 

17 hours ago, Luis Hernandez said:

How did you do so? I've been looking for a progran that can batch resize from 8K to 4K, without sucess

 

17 hours ago, DAD said:

not so tech savvy in picture editing, so indeed how do you do that? is that just 1 file you may possibly share here - with @Aamir's approval of course. Or Aamir, can you put a 4k galley texture somwhere on your Fenix site for download so I and others can check this out?

Hi,

I was the user who first experimented with the Galley (8k) texture. I've been liaising with Aamir about the findings, so he's definitely interested in this.

I resized the texture in the easiest way possible - using Paint.NET  (not to be confused with MS Paint).

https://www.getpaint.net/download.html

The 8k galley texture in question is called:-

FRONT_GALLEY_ALBD.PNG.DDS

and is located at:-

[Community folder]\fnx-aircraft-320\SimObjects\Airplanes\FNX320\texture.VC

1). First make a back up of this texture file.

2). Drag the file onto your desktop item for Paint.NET

3). The file opens. Select IMAGE from the top menu, towards the left, then RESIZE

4). Where you see the '8192' value for image width, change this to 4096. (The Height value will change to 4096 automatically).

5). Hit FILE, and SAVE.

6). As the file is a DDS, an options box will appear. It should be defaulted to the correct DDS file type, but just ensure it is set to BC3 Linear (DXT5).

7). Hit OK, and close Paint.Net

8). The file has now been reduced from 8k to 4k.   Go and try out the Fenix and see if stutters are improved, especially when panning to the right (from the captain's seat).

You try this at your own risk, and I'd recommend not attempting this if you are in any way unsure about the actions above.   It will (in the long run) be better to wait to see what Aamir finds, and any potential option provided for reducing this large file within the product.

👍

 

Edited May 25, 20224 yr by JYW

Thanks for the info! Downsizing the FRONT_GALLEY_ALBD.PNG.DDS file made no performance difference that I could see. Anyone else? 

23 minutes ago, odourboy said:

Thanks for the info! Downsizing the FRONT_GALLEY_ALBD.PNG.DDS file made no performance difference that I could see. Anyone else? 

Are you struggling with performance on your system? Mine is not too dissimilar and I have had zero issues, the Fenix is actually better than the FBW. I can maintain 30FPS (locked in NVCP) at London Heathrow in 4K along with traffic and the Fenix rendering the displays on the CPU at the quality setting.

I have used paintdotnet in the past to resize FBW textures that were really big. I did mention previously in this thread that maybe for those struggling to resize all the textures in one livery to 2k and see if it helps, I haven't had to do that as of yet. I spent a lot of time when I got my 4K TV dialing in the settings for my system so I can run the sim with decent results until I can start upgrading my hardware which will be soon.

Edited May 25, 20224 yr by RJC68