1 hour ago, ega said:

This new driver does not give an option to NOT install Geforce Experience. As I had never used it before, can anyone please recommend whether I should keep (and use) it?

Thanks 

It did for me

6 minutes ago, Bill A said:

.... Plus does anyone else get frame drops when you first load the plane and pan for the first time?

 

This has almost always been the case, with any version of a MS flight sim. As a matter of fact, loading sim and doing a 360 deg. pan was part of prelim graphics loading routine to help with performance.

7 minutes ago, tgsweat said:

off screen pre-caching to ultra helps with that 

I tried it with both high and ultra and the frame drops still appeared 

9 minutes ago, edpatino said:

It did for me

Probably within a day or two someone on guru3d.com will provide the new driver with the extra bloat removed, using one of the two utilities available to strip down drivers. Or you can do it yourself with NVslimmer located Here

**** not quite how I wanted this to go, go figure.

I meant to refer to what ega posted

Edited September 27, 20223 yr by jimcarrel

9 minutes ago, edpatino said:

It did for me

It did for me, you just click the "grey" dot and..............then custom,....so easy

There is no "bloat" lol.........

Edited September 27, 20223 yr by Nyxx

Thanks to @abrams_tank for the heads up! Just finished my first flight with 517.48, and I'll post my thoughts and results here (without having read the prior posts, so sorry in advance if I repeat stuff). 

From the release notes I could see two sections relevant for MSFS: 

2.4 What’s New in Version 517.48 WHQL

2.4.1.1 Game Ready for Overwatch 2

This new Game Ready Driver provides the best day-0 gaming experience for Overwatch 2. In addition, this new Game Ready Driver offers support for the latest releases and updates including the addition of NVIDIA DLSS technology to Microsoft Flight Simulator.

3.1 Fixed Issues in Version 517.48 WHQL

[DirectX 12] Microsoft Flight Simulator may display texture corruption after extended gameplay [3762763]

...

This is a bit different to Studio 517.40 which only had this: 

3.1 Fixed Issues in Version 517.40 WHQL

[DX12][Flight Simulator] Potential image corruption [3722516]

...

My test flight was in the analog Caravan from Oslo to Bergen, Norway. Weather was quite heavy, with dense cloud layers, light rain and icing conditions. Flight time was just a bit over 1 hr and I was running the following settings: 

4K DLSS quality | ultra | TLOD 200

I was running ReShade, the Map enhancement mod and Norway DEM10 mesh which very well could have affected my fps. 

Performance was pretty much the same as with the Studio driver 😉 Makes me wonder if that also had the DX12 optimizations for MSFS in place? Hmmm. 

Anyway decent performance, not amazing but it usually isn't in heavy weather. Generally smooth but some stutters here and there. Nothing major. Excellent CPU multithreading like with the Studio driver, and both the 12900KF and 3090 were getting a decent workout. 

The screenshots were taken at cruise FL150. You can see from the HWiNFO grab that all the cores (and threads) are being used fairly evenly, with an average CPU utilization of 62%. 

Benchmark for the whole flight: 

• Average framerate : 45.0 FPS
• Minimum framerate : 6.9 FPS
• Maximum framerate : 69.7 FPS
• 1% low framerate : 28.6 FPS
• 0.1% low framerate : 13.6 FPS

Not a bad result but the 1% lows didn't manage to stay above 30. 0.1% lows are also quite low. This explains the stutters. 

EDIT: Well done @abrams_tank for including the highlights about MSFS in the GeForce news section. I completely missed that.

Edited September 27, 20223 yr by Cpt_Piett

1 hour ago, hangar said:

If anyone has a 30 series card and has comparative numbers with DLSS vs non-DLSS (no vsync caps), please post your results when you get a chance.

 

Hi

Slightly odd results for non-VR, but here you go:

3080Ti

Ryzen7 5800X

PMDG 737 T/o from EGPD (Aberdeen) then flight at 5000' westwards over Scottish mountains; Live weather

517.48 Game Ready Driver   Ryzen Simultaneous Multithreading ON

MSFS DX12  VSync Off

Comparison in VR (Reverb G2):

DLSS (Quality) : Avge 52fps      Smooth and crisp outside; decent cabin static lettering; slightly degraded FMS/glass cockpit lettering

TAA:  Avge 40fps    Smooth and crisp outside; decent cabin visuals

 

Comparison in 2D:

DLSS (Quality): Avge fps: 53     Smooth and crisp visuals

TAA: Avg fps 55  Smooth and crisp visuals      

 

I don't really understand the 2D fps result...nor that I'm getting as good DLSS fps in VR as in 2D - but it might be because the headset was on and I was turning the VR on and off from within MSFS.  A better result with non-VR might have been if I'd started and stayed in 2D with the VR headset disabled. 

 

 

 

But are the blurred images of the instruments still there ? Or has it disappeared with the new drivers ?

I still can't activate DLSS super....

2 hours ago, DAD said:

good. so we are left with the term GAME. I can live with that. so far smooth sailing here with DX12 (TAA though) in the Fenix towards ENAL

I’m guessing you didn’t have the Alesund freeware scenery installed? It crippled performance for me, even with DX12 and a terrain LOD of 100. I highly recommended Norway DEM10 mesh though. Sorry, off topic.

Ive just installed the new driver and and selected DLSS with DX11 and the screens are all blurred, I switched back to TAA and the bluriness is gone, so whats all that about....this new driver has made no bloody difference whatsoever on my rig.....do I need to be using DX12?? will that solve the bluriness?? 

2 minutes ago, tull said:

Ive just installed the new driver and and selected DLSS with DX11 and the screens are all blurred, I switched back to TAA and the bluriness is gone, so whats all that about....this new driver has made no bloody difference whatsoever on my rig.....do I need to be using DX12?? will that solve the bluriness?? 

Resolution? Graphics card? Cpu? Plane? Etc etc etc….. New tyres on my car and it still won’t go faster than 100mph…. 

I get blurred screens too. i7-9700 5Ghz, RTX 3080, 2K. 

RTX 3060

11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-11700F @ 2.50GHz   2.50 GHz

32GB Ram

and I'm flying the Fenix

Asobo never claimed these drivers were going to resolve blurry cockpits when DLSS was enabled. if you can point me to a statement where this was promised please direct me to that..

The blurry cockpits bug has already been noted and the Devs have to devise a masked area or an area of exeption so to speak where DLSS will not be applied.

In the meantime please try to use the sharpening feature or wait for the masks to be implemented in future updates or just use the plain old non DLSS version.

I know some of you Ladies and Gentlemen skip the details during beta and just expect a release to be working on the first go round .. Please be advised that in reality that rarely happens and the developer has noted that  this (DLSS) is a an effort that will require some refinement post release.

Edited September 27, 20223 yr by Maxis

2 hours ago, hangar said:

If anyone has a 30 series card and has comparative numbers with DLSS vs non-DLSS (no vsync caps), please post your results when you get a chance.

 

I have a 3090 and in some scenarios DLSS has increased fps by nearly 50%. It depends how GPU limited you are though. If you’re main thread limited DLSS will not do much to increase fps.

The way I see it (probably a huge oversimplification) is that DX12 will result in overall better CPU utilization, reducing the chances of being main thread limited. DLSS on the other hand reduces the load on the GPU by rendering at a lower resolution, then using some fancy AI methods for upscaling and sharpening.

DX12 enhances the way the sim uses the CPU in several ways. Being “closer to metal”, the sim software can talk directly to the GPU without having to go through the software API that goes through the CPU first. This alleviates the workload on the CPU. 

DX12 also allows more direct CPU thread management, and more optimized multithreading. This will of course be of benefit when running CPU-intensive addons (aircraft, AI traffic etc) as well as being able to crank up graphics settings that are heavy on the CPU, such as LODs.

Credits to Crunchmeister71 for great elaborations on the benefits of DX12.

Oh, almost forgot, serious simmers™ should not discuss fps 😲