28 minutes ago, pmb said:

Japan was indeed neglected by the Legacy Sims +  Addon devs

Hi Michael, I don't think so. I don't remember the developer's names, but I had maybe more japanese airports than many others from other countries in the times of FS9 and FSX and used to fly very often in Japan. Not the case of India, for sure.

Edited November 17, 20223 yr by edpatino

2 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

Satellite & photogrammetry is the future of flight simulation. In the article:

Autogen is the past . It will be interesting to see how the satellite & photogrammetry improves in the coming years.

j

Isn't placing trees and buildings based off the sat photo, by definition autogen?   Just better-placed/better-located than ever before?

4 minutes ago, Mace said:

Isn't placing trees and buildings based off the sat photo, by definition autogen?   Just better-placed/better-located than ever before?

Yes it is. But when I flew the Congo river and came across little clusters of autogen, at least I knew somebody lived there. Why they were there? Don't know, but they were. 

4 hours ago, Paul K said:

Very interesting indeed. This caught my eye:

"India has just joined the open data initiative; something common in much of the rest of the world, and a scheme that Microsoft is a part of. The Indian government has also announced plans to fund the scanning of the top 100 cities in the country, creating exactly the sort of data needed to craft Flight Simulator’s ‘digital twin’ of the earth."

I'd love to see India upgraded.

India being photoreal and with full photogrammetry would certainly be a first. I'm already amazed at the fidelity of the sim in places where the data is poor, like SE Asia, China, etc., but a really overhauled India with a new WU would be extraordinary. You could probably spend a few months flying around and not see the same city twice.

1 minute ago, OneOfMany said:

Yes it is. But when I flew the Congo river and came across little clusters of autogen, at least I knew somebody lived there. Why they were there? Don't know, but they were. 

Maybe they were there for the waters.

24 minutes ago, edpatino said:

Hi Michael, I don't think so. I don't remember the developer's names, but I had maybe more japanese airports than many others from other countries in the times of FS9 and FSX and used to fly very often in Japan. Not the case of India, for sure.

Overland was good but died with FS9. Next, for FSX/P3D, Wing Creation stalled at a point, too, as did Aerosim which left Technobrain, essentially. Okay MFSG for smaller airfields.

But overlooking my (now defunct) P3D collection it's not that small indeed, so you are right. What was badly missing was some kind of FTX or TrueEarth Region.

Anyway, India has indeed been neglected as far as I can recall. That's the point ORBX Mumbai for MSFS (which is actually quite nice) didn't sell well as it has been just singular.

Kind regards, Michael

23 minutes ago, pmb said:

Overland was good but died with FS9. Next, for FSX/P3D, Wing Creation stalled at a point, too, as did Aerosim which left Technobrain, essentially. Okay MFSG for smaller airfields.

You have them all!. Overland was the first of them, who produced a collection of japanese airports in two or three packages (9 airports per package?, I'm not certain).

5 hours ago, Paul K said:

Very interesting indeed. This caught my eye:

"India has just joined the open data initiative; something common in much of the rest of the world, and a scheme that Microsoft is a part of. The Indian government has also announced plans to fund the scanning of the top 100 cities in the country, creating exactly the sort of data needed to craft Flight Simulator’s ‘digital twin’ of the earth."

I'd love to see India upgraded.

India is such a strange case.  On the outside the one could say India has no infrastructure and is chaotic at best. Most people see their barbaric traffic, insane utility poles stacked with a bees nest of wires amongst other things. To the non-word not allowed though they are quickly becoming a structured power in the world. Their railroad system has made significant upgrades in the past decade which railfans admire and on top of that they have a god darn space program now. Their infrastructure is improving and the country as a whole is modernizing.  They are wonderfully nice people and it's a shame they are so stereotyped. 

Edited November 18, 20223 yr by styckx

It is hard to stereotype India it is not homogenous. 

There are 22 official languages (and several hundred "non official" ) and Hindi is spoken as a first language by well under half the population. There are also significant cultural differences between different groups, for example consider two young people of a similar age studying at a top level University,  a Tamil speaking girl studying engineering in Mumbai in the South and a Punjabi speaking Sikh studying in New Delhi, they will be living quite different lives.

 

Edited November 18, 20223 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick

30 million game pass users and climbing may have helped, with the XBOX S/X now more available likely Christmas could see sales climb.   

More and more humans flying MSFS all the time. Now what we need are way more cats flying MSFS !

4 hours ago, Mace said:

Maybe they were there for the waters

What I was really saying was that all across the world in GA flights, I have come across "real" enclaves of humans, in what I consider to be the strangest of places. Knowing that they are really living there brings life to the area. Randomly placed autogen, with made up roads doesn't do it. 

Cloud-served gaming and simming is something to definitely keep an eye on, and xcloud seems to be leading the way here. Some day in the future, if one can get the same performance when playing a sim in-browser as they do on the bare metal, and if the right controls can still be set up and used in this mode, that's a game changer. But even before that day comes, to be able to use a sim like MSFS in the browser via xcloud as can be done currently is still a leap forward compared to what we're used to with legacy sims. AFAIC, the more users MSFS attracts the better, be they ultra casual or ultra hardcore and everything between.. the more the bottom line and financials keep strengthening for MSFS the better it is for all of us.

And agreed with all above, S.E.Asia really needs some WU love so can't wait for India and other countries in the region to get enhanced.
 

Edited November 18, 20223 yr by lwt1971

52 minutes ago, Fielder said:

More and more humans flying MSFS all the time. Now what we need are way more cats flying MSFS !

 

8 hours ago, styckx said:

India is such a strange case. 

Yes, it is a country in the midst of a long transition. One of my memories of Mumbai ( in the late 80s ) was the contrast between burgeoning wealth, and poverty that I could hardly bear to look at. I don't suppose its economic growth will benefit the vast majority, unfortunately. I was only there for a couple of days, but as you say, it is an interesting place. To borrow a phrase, I hope it becomes the 'jewel in the crown' of flight-sim world updates.🙂