2 hours ago, lwt1971 said:

well then so can AI/ATC as already seen 🤷‍♂️

Clearly not, as FSLT have tried as have AIG, and it’s the core system implementation of it that’s broken. 

4 hours ago, lwt1971 said:

but compared to everything else in the backlog, and going by user request popularity, ATC/AI just doesn't place as high so it is what it is

That's true, at least in terms of popularity. Although the simconnect issues which affects AIG and FSLTL got introduced with SU11, so the threads don't have nearly as many replies or views as the more longer-lasting threads like "Live Weather Does Not Match" (most views under feedback-logged) or "Xbox/PC screens go black then CTD" (most views under bug-logged). 

Having said that, "Issue with SimConnect traffic not following assigned flight plan and having unpredictable behavior" is actually listed under "known issues". Not sure if this is the same issue that negatively impacts AIG/FSLTL though. 

Also, when people including myself criticise things in the sim, it doesn't mean we don't necessarily appreciate a lot of the good stuff. It doesn't have to be an "either/or" or "us vs them" mentality, which so often happens in a lot of threads. And there's so much to like in MSFS IMO. I haven't even had time yet to try out the gliders and helicopters, let alone test all the free aircraft that came with the 40th anniversary edition, except the A310. 

25 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Also, when people including myself criticise things in the sim, it doesn't mean we don't necessarily appreciate a lot of the good stuff. It doesn't have to be an "either/or" or "us vs them" mentality, which so often happens in a lot of threads. And there's so much to like in MSFS IMO. I haven't even had time yet to try out the gliders and helicopters, let alone test all the free aircraft that came with the 40th anniversary edition, except the A310. 

All fair points and agreed, but I was just responding to some of the hyperbole around here from others 🙂 ... if SU11 broke some stuff that the existing 3rd party AI/traffic add-ons were relying on, hopefully it'll get looked at by MS/Asobo soon. I thought I read on another thread that Kaiii has passed on the details/requests to Asobo, so let's see.
 

18 hours ago, MattNischan said:

I see relatively little fanfare and instead quite a few complaints focused on far less core things, like AI aircraft.

I think it’s the human Negativity Bias. As soon as we get a feature or fix that becomes the new baseline and we move to complain about the next thing.

Also as others have said people have their “pet” issue, “why are they not working on the thing that means the most to me‽ it’s been x years” etc. 

Love your work!

double post

Edited November 23, 20223 yr by NZ255

Decent camera system, proper working AI, proper working ATC, mend morphing cliffs, smooth out weather transitions in RW, reduce time to access control screen, implement proper working ground vehicles at airports, oh, and mend the multiple monitor bug when dragging instruments across... just thinking.... 

Edited November 23, 20223 yr by Rockliffe

21 hours ago, MattNischan said:

... one of the biggest items on the wishlist was fixing the sim-included Garmin systems .... Now that that's actually happening, in a big way unseen in any simulator to date ..... I see relatively little fanfare and instead quite a few complaints focused on far less core things, like AI aircraft. .... but shouldn't the primary focus be on what you, the pilot, is actually piloting? If that experience is still not up to expectations, why wouldn't people want those things?

unlike AI, which like TV requires not effort from the user, the Garmins that WorkingTitle has been and continues to work on is on a level above many users capabilities, to fully appreciate and master them requires going back to aviation evening school. it is the icing on the cake for the elite, either real pilots or very advanced users prepared to learn about the most complex aspects of this sim. to sit down and learn requires time and discipline, something not everybody has. for those who do, the WorkingTitles have pushed MSFS above every other sim there is or we ever had. I can't imagine flying without them anymore.

looking forward to a wonderful christmas with the upcoming  AAU1. 😊

Edited November 23, 20223 yr by turbomax

Next big news item:

Austin Meyers joins the MSFS team......

19 hours ago, MattNischan said:

Mostly just curious as to why the schedule announcement got a negative reaction in a few places.

Because this is avsim.

17 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said:

Austin Meyers joins the MSFS team......

Joerg Neuman has asked him if he couldn't port MSFS for SU13 over to iOS, Linux and mobile phones, code name "Non-working-title". 😀

Edited November 23, 20223 yr by turbomax

1 hour ago, turbomax said:

it is the icing on the cake for the elite, either real pilots or very advanced users prepared to learn about the most complex aspects of this sim

Not sure how real pilots or ‘advanced users’ are elite? 💁‍♂️ 

Anyhow, there are probably way more casual users than ‘elite’, who just want to see realistic ish AI flying around with some nice weather and scenery. They don’t care if their FMC performs a hold. They’re just casual users. I myself am like this 75% of the time due to time restraints. The other 25% of the time when I actually use FMC etc as intended, I certainly don’t see myself as an elite user!

2 hours ago, Rockliffe said:

Decent camera system, proper working AI, proper working ATC, mend morphing cliffs, smooth out weather transitions in RW, reduce time to access control screen, implement proper working ground vehicles at airports, oh, and mend the multiple monitor bug when dragging instruments across... just thinking.... 

Concerning ATC especially that annoying fault pressure is only given in Hg, no matter where you are in the world and no matter what your settings are in the sim...

Edited November 23, 20223 yr by Rimshot

9 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Not sure how real pilots or ‘advanced users’ are elite?

"the elite (French: élite, from Latin: eligere, to select or to sort out) are a small group of .....people who hold a disproportionate amount of ..... skill in a group."

4 hours ago, turbomax said:

"the elite (French: élite, from Latin: eligere, to select or to sort out) are a small group of .....people who hold a disproportionate amount of ..... skill in a group."

I know what elite means. I’m still not sure how it relates to simmers… no one is elite in this hobby. A lot of Advanced people maybe, but certainly not elite. 

29 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

no one is elite in this hobby

That's not true everyone over at 'the other sim' sees themselves as elite looking down their collective noses every chance they get at the gamers over on MSFS 🤣